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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: Pyromania on September 15, 2012, 06:06:43 AM
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http://www.thefunnyblog.org/2012/05/14/funny-windows-8-2012-vs-aol-1996-fail/
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http://www.thefunnyblog.org/2012/05/14/funny-windows-8-2012-vs-aol-1996-fail/
Good one!
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That's about the size of it...
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Gee, they had HTML5 in 1996 ?
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Gee, they had HTML5 in 1996 ?
AOL was just that forward-thinking...
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Gee, they had HTML5 in 1996 ?
They (almost) had HTML5 when they had HTML1 ;)
Let's face it, from 1-4 they added lots of cruft for styling and such and turned it into a total dog's dinner. Then a wild CSS appeared and suddenly almost all of those additional formatting tags died the agonizing death they deserved.
In their place, HTML5 adds a few for improved document structure and a few tags for multimedia related stuff and retained a few structural additions of previous versions.
The bottom line though, is that a basic HTML5 document is far closer to vanilla HTML 1 than it is anything after.
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http://www.thefunnyblog.org/2012/05/14/funny-windows-8-2012-vs-aol-1996-fail/
Actually, it kind of reminds me of the old Prodigy online service... (which i could find a better screen shot)
or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7c0J_V1L8
I have been running Windows 8 preview on my early 2009 mac mini.
The performance is great, although it was freezing up quite frequently but enabling "Hyper-V" fixed that issue. No idea why that solved the problem...
The biggest drawback to windows 8 is great distances you have to move the mouse to get anything accomplished.
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http://www.thefunnyblog.org/2012/05/14/funny-windows-8-2012-vs-aol-1996-fail/
Well played :)
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Very nice. I also installed W8 under Virtualbox. I don't like it at all. Prolly be OK on a tablet or such, but not for me on a desktop or laptop.
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Yep, Windows 8 on the desktop will be a huge flop. Tried it out and I hate it. MS just can't seem to figure out what they want to do with 8....make it a tablet OS or a desktop OS. In my opinion it does neither well.
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To maximize stability and entertainment value don't forget to buy two of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1zxDa3t0fg
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Loving it on my laptop, it's actually very easy to use. I'm lucky enough to be old enough to have gone through the Windows 3.11 to Windows 95 change which also had the same comments flying around.
"Oh the start menu will never work, it will be a flop" etc ;-)
The start menu is still there, it's the metro UI (or whatever they want to call it now), click on the desktop app, hover the mouse where the start menu usually is, up pops the metro menu.
Run the mouse pointer down the left hand side of the screen and up pops the new task bar with large icon previews of each app, which is far more informative than the old.
Run the mouse pointer down the right hand side brings up settings for apps and the computer depending on what app you're currently in. PC settings down the bottom brings up the control panel.
Pin anything you like to the metro menu, expand out and see all apps. I've created groups and added the games and apps I need.
Many more cool things.
Anyway, doesn't matter what I say there will be some replies complaining and as per history the same old arguments will come up.
All this will calm down and people will adapt just like they did when the start menu appeared.
There's always the odd few stuck in their ways, these same people will more than likely prefer Windows 3.11.
I've seen 5 year old's adapt to windows 8 like fish to water. Some have never used a computer before but they seemed to find it more natural.
Anyway things are changing and we will move further and further away from what we see a computer as being today.
I can't stand sitting at a desk anymore.
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...I can't stand sitting at a desk anymore.
How do you play games then? Standing and moving your fingers on a pad (oops it just fell down!)? :)
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Loving it on my laptop, it's actually very easy to use. I'm lucky enough to be old enough to have gone through the Windows 3.11 to Windows 95 change which also had the same comments flying around.
"Oh the start menu will never work, it will be a flop" etc ;-)
The Start menu stuck around because it was a big improvement on Windows 3.1's Program Manager - saved space, improved organization, and allowed quick navigation while preserving all the important functionality. "Metro" is exactly the opposite - it wastes a crapload of space, impedes navigation, adds whiz-bang layout gimmickry at the expense of organization, and does absolutely nothing at all to improve on the old Start menu.
The start menu is still there, it's the metro UI (or whatever they want to call it now), click on the desktop app, hover the mouse where the start menu usually is, up pops the metro menu.
Yes, and now it uses all your screen space to display less information than it did in less than half of it before. And you can't turn it off. WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT.
Run the mouse pointer down the left hand side of the screen and up pops the new task bar with large icon previews of each app, which is far more informative than the old.
If you need cramped little thumbnails of windows to tell you what you have open, you're either illiterate or have too many similarly-titled windows open.
Run the mouse pointer down the right hand side brings up settings for apps and the computer depending on what app you're currently in. PC settings down the bottom brings up the control panel.
And I'm sure the integration of mouse gestures into the OS by a company that famously sucks at UI innovation won't get annoying at all. Especially not with their new "oh, we just don't allow you to turn off the glitzy new crap anymore" attitude.
Pin anything you like to the metro menu, expand out and see all apps. I've created groups and added the games and apps I need.
Gee, that's kind of like exactly how the Start menu has always worked, only now it's a giant, disorganized waste of space! Huzzah!
Anyway, doesn't matter what I say there will be some replies complaining and as per history the same old arguments will come up.
The fact that there have always been codgers and there will always be codgers has absolutely no bearing on whether or not the codgers are right. In this case, the codgers are absolutely dead on.
All this will calm down and people will adapt just like they did when the start menu appeared.
That remains to be seen. Vista has already shown that Microsoft isn't as all-powerful as they like to think.
I've seen 5 year old's adapt to windows 8 like fish to water. Some have never used a computer before but they seemed to find it more natural.
Yes, I suppose if you've never been exposed to a good GUI, it probably is easier to get used to a bad one.
Anyway things are changing and we will move further and further away from what we see a computer as being today.
"Things are changing" - the perpetual fallback argument of the futurist. Yes, things are changing, they're always changing - but the mere fact that something is happening does not make it good.
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How do you play games then? Standing and moving your fingers on a pad (oops it just fell down!)? :)
Old school Amiga, sitting on a bean bag with a joystick.
PC gaming with a laptop in the lounge.
On the move it's either the PSP or Android phone.
I just can't bring myself to sit in a computer chair at a desk, have done that for far too long :-)
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As expected the old complaints and arguments roll in, to be honest it's not worth getting into the same discussion that was had back in 1994/1995 :-)
A year from now... :-)
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...I just can't bring myself to sit in a computer chair at a desk, have done that for far too long :-)
You sir, aren't a true nerd then! :D ;)
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You sir, aren't a true nerd then! :D ;)
Have been sitting at some form of desk since 1982, started with a Commodore 64. Typing lines of basic code from gaming books.
Had/still have a telnet BBS which I first had online in 1984. Started off part time with a 2400 baud modem, eventually moved up to a 28.8k... sad thing was I could tell what speed they were connecting at by the sound of the modem connection noise.
All the jobs I've had have been fixing PC's. Starting with a job where I built machines from scratch back when AT PSU's were the norm.
I've had 15 odd different cellphones, starting with an infamous Motorola brick phone all the way through to my Ideos X5 (which is getting old now but I love it). Which I like rooting and installing custom ROM's.
I've seen a few different interfaces over my lifetime, starting with a green amber screen with a flashing cursor to what we have now :-)
Even own a Mac.... which I'm ashamed to mention, although it has morphos on it. But sits under the table in the lounge gathering dust for the last 6 months. :-/
Think I still have some nerd in there :-)
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Even own a Mac.... which I'm ashamed to mention, although it has morphos on it. But sits under the table in the lounge gathering dust for the last 6 months. :-/
Think I still have some nerd in there :-)
I hate to say it, but the poor guy is long dead by now then. How did you even fit him in there?
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I hate to say it, but the poor guy is long dead by now then. How did you even fit him in there?
Maybe he was trying to find OS X and gave up!
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HTML is all about Hyper Text Markup Language, "HTML5" messed up the basic conception by introducing these video and audio stuff. If this isn't enough it's using computer resources inefficiently in my opinion (those web browser applications). It's gonna be new Flash because of this (because what is the difference between browser application and Flash program?)
The Amiga browsers should avoid such contents and stay in good HTML4 standards, thus being quickest web browsers in the world (IBrowse) :) As of TimberWolf or OWB they should also avoid newest standards, because we haven't granted access to the most recent hardware right now.
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HTML is all about Hyper Text Markup Language, "HTML5" messed up the basic conception by introducing these video and audio stuff. If this isn't enough it's using computer resources inefficiently in my opinion (those web browser applications). It's gonna be new Flash because of this (because what is the difference between browser application and Flash program?)
I agree completely. It's pretty hilarious how all the standards wonks who spent the 2000s screaming about "HTML is for content, not layout, use CSS!" are now all jumping on board the HTML5 bandwagon just because it's a Standard.
Giving web developers in-browser multimedia to replace Flash is like taking a rusty chainsaw away from a toddler and giving him a shiny new one...
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Face it, technology and the ways in which it is (mis)used evolves. People jumping up and down about the addition of the inclusion of multimedia tags in HTML5 are overlooking some of the other structural changes that are actually pretty sensible. There are many more reasons to use HTML5 than as a streaming content delivery system.