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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 09:27:56 PM »
Pretty much true! good job!



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Use this helpful 3x3 grid to understand where OS4/MOS/AROS zealots are coming from when they comment on any combination of the three different systems.

In row major order, they can be summarised thusly:

AmigaOS4 zealots (aka BAFs) perceive AmigaOS4 to be the one true OS due to it's direct lineage from the sacred 3.1 source. Discussion about alternatives is acceptable only after the fact they are not AmigaOS has been established. Conversely, AROS is perceived as a sinister threat, spawn of those that turned to the dark side (x86) only to spread like an unchecked disease to PPC, ARM and now even 68K! Finally, they perceive MorphOS as the wannabe contender that barges into every discussion about AmigaOS4 hawking their jumped up alternative, but alas the blue short ones do not hold the sacred symbols that belong to the one true OS, no matter how much they'd like to lay claim to the throne.

AROS zealots perceive AmigaOS4 as chained to anachronistic, slow hardware that will forever hold it back as time marches on. Hardware that is, like the equivalent mass in gold, astronomically expensive. They perceive AROS as the logical way forward; sexy, free and unrestricted by any notion of which hardware should be used to run it. Finally, they perceive MorphOS to be fundamentally flawed in a similar vein to AmigaOS4 tied to ageing hardware, though at least this ball and chain is available for rather less outlay overall.

MorphOS zealots (aka Smurfs) perceive AmigaOS4 as a wholly inferior product without any positive aspects at all, tied to obsolete, overpriced hardware. Consequently, they are completely unable to understand why anybody would use it, other than through some blind cultish devotion. They perceive AROS as an immature system, far behind the standard they believe MorphOS to have attained and thus aren't unduly concerned about the fact that it runs on even cheaper and far more powerful hardware than their OS of choice. Nor, it seems that the gulf in functionality that is their mantra is closing every day. Finally, they perceive MorphOS as the pinnacle of the Amiga experience, even if it is only fully appreciable on PPC Mac, to which it brings a second chance at life (thus skirting around the obvious observation that it's equally obsolete as the hardware their crimson adversary favours) after the architecture was unceremoniously dumped by apple in favour of x86.

 

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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 09:34:05 PM »
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I'm many things but an outright hypocrite isn't one of them :lol:


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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2010, 09:37:35 PM »
Hehe ;)
 

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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2010, 10:00:25 PM »
I don't think anyone is complaining because it is so dead on, and actually shows each point of view.

Next challenge: Expand grid to include classic systems, UAE and Natami.

I was trying to explain to my wife about the different Amiga factions a couple of months ago.  She didn't quite get it.  Your chart will help.
 

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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2010, 10:08:20 PM »
What about those of us who stick to 3.1?
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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2010, 10:09:00 PM »
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What about those of us who stick to 3.1?


Who do you think created it? ;)
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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2010, 10:16:08 PM »
What is a BAF?
 

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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2010, 10:17:09 PM »
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What is a BAF?


Blind Amiga Fanatic.
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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2010, 10:21:07 PM »
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Blind Amiga Fanatic.

A pejorative term that has somewhat lost it's meaning these days (especially in the post Amiga v Hyperion litigation era), but as all of the next-gen-amigaos trolls are perpetually stuck in 2003, to them it's still common currency.

The counterpart "BGF" (Blind Genesi Follower) never really caught on as "smurf" had already made it into the wild :)
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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2010, 10:24:33 PM »
Hows that saying go....Hit the nail right on the head...LOL

:lol::roflmao::lol:
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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2010, 10:25:04 PM »
I like "Born Again Frieden." (The whole mess always confused me, anyway. I use a little bit of everything, just like I own all the major console systems. I'm not sure why people feel the need to choose sides.)
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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2010, 10:26:27 PM »
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Wouldn't that give the impression that AROS zealots - the classname for which remains a secret, but given the famous, somewhat provocative Kitty I'm going to call "furries" - regard AROS as highly camp, rather than free?


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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2010, 10:34:07 PM »
Quote from: the_leander;594131
Use this helpful 3x3 grid to understand where OS4/MOS/AROS zealots are coming from when they comment on any combination of the three different systems.


Goodness! I'm glad I stuck with OS 3.1 now :lol:

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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2010, 10:42:37 PM »
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The counterpart "BGF" (Blind Genesi Follower) never really caught on as "smurf" had already made it into the wild :)


Smurf? You mean this?


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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2010, 10:47:24 PM »
The first time I heard the expression was from a MorphOS user: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4084#5
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Or get the pure PPC-compiler as that will also come with installer,
and even a special version of GoldED for free.


I know you want it, and you should know it to,there is no way of
escaping the smurf-armada :-P :-D ;-)


Jeez, that thread is ironic in hindsight:
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Re: Some helpful information for those new to the community.
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 24, 2010, 10:49:47 PM »
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Are those acolytes from the Church in the bottom left image then?


I shouldn't think so, those four guys look quite normal compared to the average BAF.

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