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Re: AROS Hits the Papers.
« on: March 06, 2004, 03:23:02 PM »
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For all of you who want to run Amiga Apps Natively on AROS. Put 50 Bucks on the integration of UAE into AROS bounty. It's basicly the same as just JIT-Emulation. Well maybe a little slower. But with it you could even run hardwarebanging apps "natively".


I think I should point out that a method of running 68k apps on the x86 version of AROS has been decided.

Please listen as I'm a bit tired to retyping this :-):

1. We will have the AROS Port of UAE running as a task in AROS (with JIT etc...)
2. We will run a 68k version of AROS on UAE.
3. The 68k version of AROS will be special in as much as it will pass all system function calls to the Native (in this case x86) version of AROS.

This will mean that you will not see UAE as the 68k programs will be using the same interface as the x86 Apps, that is to say they will co-exist on the Workbench screen, even be able to share data, and access the same drives.
This will also have the benefit of allowing hardware banging apps to run on thier own Intuition screen (they will multitask with the x86 apps :-D ).

The one draw back is that 68k libraries cannot be used with x86 programs, and vice versa.


The thing we need to make this happen is for someone to work on the Amiga (UAE) port of AROS.
Yes, put money into the emulation bounty, as "wes" has already expressed an interest in doing this after the TCP/IP bounty.

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Re: AROS Hits the Papers.
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2004, 04:48:05 PM »
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I don't agree. You could split the ram in two sections using the MMU. The 68k programs would be put in one memory space and all accesses from 68k would be converted to little-endian and the accesses from x86 software to 68k modules as the 68k modules/programs would be in the "68k memory space" would simply convert the addresses.


I have no idea how one could actually do that... Why don't you build an emulator as you've described so that we can see it.

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Re: AROS Hits the Papers.
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2004, 09:51:41 PM »
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BTW, I've translated the AROS introduction to Spanish, where should I send it?


That's great! Just send it to the aros-dev mailing list, thanks :-)

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Re: AROS Hits the Papers.
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2004, 01:52:36 PM »
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12TEXT...

yes... even if we aligned the stuff it would be impossible... you are right. Thank you Fabio

but...

That leaves me with only one idea (/doubt), using the 68k memory area as the guy who did executor (a mac emu). He used memory in the oposite order...

....TXET21
 


Actually wouldn't the 68k see that text as 21ETTX :-)

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Re: AROS Hits the Papers.
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2004, 04:10:05 PM »
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restore2003 wrote:
whats this all about?  :-?

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Hi Wayne, it is "official" now. The question remains how far the application of the ruling will extend. In any case, Genesi will NOT do it themselves and it will have nothing to do with MorphOS. We would like to sub-license AROS in a scheme that would provide a portion of the royalties to them (majority) and to this site (and perhaps Amiga-News too and others, etc.?) as we discussed what seems now to be years ago. We would still like to do that. If we did that this site would become a promotional/community arm of the effort and there would not be trademark challenge to this site ever again. Plus, the AROS people would then undeniably have "official" recognition too. $4.50/unit would still need to go to a escrow account for Amiga Inc. so that employees and creditors with legal judgments against Amiga Inc. could be paid.





I think he is simply, stating that he will licence AROS... perhaps for the Pegasos, which may bring some income into the AROS development, and allow us to use the Amiga Name, through our conenction with Genesi...

Thats just my understanding.