The problem is this: Everybody - except, as usual, Wayne - knows that this site isn't going to sell for 10,000 USD. It would be insane to pay that much, period.
He's not going to get what he's asking for - the question is how he's going to react. Having witnessed Wayne's reactions to similar problems in the past, I have my doubts if amiga.org will survive this.
Thanks for your vote of confidence, and the not so subtle insults. Very helpful. I wondered when the trolls would show up. My response wouldn't be nearly as helpful, albeit much shorter.
99% of the content of this site are forum postings. These postings are owned by their authors, not by Wayne - hence he can't sell them. He can only sell the domain and the existing infrastructure.
Absolutely, unequivocably wrong. Period. Not even a point of discussion. the content posted on ANY site becomes the inherited property of the site, and it's covered in the TOS which has been posted in various versions since 2001. Same with Moobunny, same with AW, same with MZ, same with *any* site.
When Microsoft bought out yahoo, did all the links go away? When Google bought out YouTube, did all the videos disappear? No. The end-user still has the right to delete their videos (or in our case, each of your posts/contributions) but in absolute fact, the content is part of the site and inseparable as such.
Edit: if you want to consider it "selling the domain and getting free data" then that's fine, but whomever purchases the domain gets the whole ball of wax, not just the domain name. Whether or not that makes you uneasy or not is completely irrelevant.
Without you, who spent quite some time to migrate the content from the old CMS to the new one, all that Wayne could sell would be a domain and an empty forum. You don't seem to care, but the timing of events...
1. Wayne complaining that he needs to upgrade the CMS, because "running a.org wouldn't be fun anymore if we don't"
2. Karlos investing lots of hours to migrate the content
3. Wayne trying to sell the whole shebang for an insane amount of money because "running a.org is no fun anymore"
makes me feel uneasy.
You're right about one thing. We are *all* indebted to Karlos for saving the data from the last x years. Absolutely.
1) Never complained about "it wouldn't be fun any more". The upgrade was mandated by the hosting provider's abandonment of PHP 4. The copy of Xoops that we had was damned near 10 years old, having been used to satisfy the diehard AmigaOS users. Period.
2) No Argument, and you should thank your sweet bippy that Karlos was here to save the data to begin with. I could have just as easily done a full, clean reboot without any data.
3) Stop making shit up buckhead.
- I no longer have any personal interest in anything Amiga
- I want out, and want to make sure that whomever takes over is serious about it
- I have a 15 year vested interest in this site, it's content, and it's copyrights.
For *that* purpose, and *that* purpose alone, there is a price tag associated with it.
The fact that you crawled out from under your rock long enough to come in here and absently attack me for it speaks volumes for what's wrong with this community as a whole, though I do like to believe that 99% of the community is better than this.
Any further insults or attacks will be met in kind.