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[r06ue1]

I believe if Amiga OS is to have a future it has to be available on x86 hardware.  x86 rules the market place and will people who have never used it take a look at it?  If it is stable, fast and runs their software then heck yeah, people hate Windows for the most part for those reasons and why Linux and MacOS have been growing and Windows has been losing users.  
 
I am not an x86 guy either; x64 is better but I'll always be a RISC guy at heart.  x86 is simply the ruler of the market place at this time.  If some startup company produced a superior technology (say a Quantum gate processor) with a good OS (like the Amiga OS) and could run users current software, then yes, it could go head to head with the x86 world, but until that day comes, x86 will rule the world.

[Karlos]

I am not an x86 guy either; x64 is better but I'll always be a RISC guy at heart

Erm, AMD64 (to give it it's proper name) has been the standard for "x86" processors for quite some time now. Other than the atom, what was the last "x86" you could buy over any old computer store counter that wasn't 64-bit?

[ElPolloDiabl]

x86 sounds good at first, but then you will also need things like WINE and directx to boost the the software for it. Otherwise you will have to wait for people to port software. It means years before you can do anything with it. AROS is as good as it gets here.
There 'could' be a market for it on ARM devices though. It could have a niche in between the alternatives. It has plenty of games and apps to bring across with it.
I would certainly prefer a customisable Amiga OS on my smartphone or in a simple portable computer.

[cha05e90]

There 'could' be a market for it on ARM devices though. It could have a niche in between the alternatives. It has plenty of games and apps to bring across with it.

Being a user of RiscOS (still having an RiscPC running here...) I must admit that even the port of a *native* (!) desktop operating system like RiscOS to recent ARM hardware like the Beagle board or maybe the recent stuff from Genesi is a task that really, really laaaaaasts! I wouldn't assume that a port of an "ARM-alien" OS like AmigaOS or MorphOS will be really faster... (except you have some spare millions for a bunch of coders... ;-))

[klx300r]

excellent idea for the blog..we needed it!

@ Franko

time to upgrade from that 4.0 release you have that you say is so slow mate;)

[Hattig]

For personal computers, PowerPC is lying in its death bed. For servers, and consoles, it doing great, but neither are much use for us. So that leaves a few, specialist boards, which are released infrequently and cost a lot, and often have the Amiga aspect as a secondary reason to exist, behind a primary as an industrial control board, etc.

There are two potential future paths. x86 (might as well go straight to x86-64 and never deal with the crufty 32-bit stuff), or ARM.

I can only think how nice an AMD Brazos based mini-ITX board would be next year with AmigaOS. Single-chip dual-core CPU and Radeon HD graphics (not going to set the world alight, but cheap_)...

Or how about an ARM System-on-Chip? NVIDIA Tegra 2? TI OMAP? Marvell? Or dozens more ... these are getting to the dual-core, 1.5GHz+ arena now.

[Hattig]

x86 sounds good at first, but then you will also need things like WINE and directx to boost the the software for it. Otherwise you will have to wait for people to port software. It means years before you can do anything with it. AROS is as good as it gets here.

So you would rather have ... NOTHING?

[Franko]

excellent idea for the blog..we needed it!

@ Franko

time to upgrade from that 4.0 release you have that you say is so slow mate;)

Nah... Karlos won't part with his BVision and Hyperion aint getting another penny out of me after the the shamefull way the conned OS4.0 users into buying it and then dropped all support for it...

[klx300r]

Nah... Karlos won't part with his BVision and Hyperion aint getting another penny out of me after the the shamefull way the conned OS4.0 users into buying it and then dropped all support for it...

well I can't comment on 4.0 matters as I went straight to OS4.1 quite happily..though keep in mind that when new hardware starting popping up (Pegs, A1's, Sams, new & upcoming Sam460ex and X1000) I was pleasontly surprised that they had time to bring the classic users up to date with OS4.1 & incorporating modern hardware for the classics

[Franko]

well I can't comment on 4.0 matters as I went straight to OS4.1 quite happily..though keep in mind that when new hardware starting popping up (Pegs, A1's, Sams, new & upcoming Sam460ex and X1000) I was pleasontly surprised that they had time to bring the classic users up to date with OS4.1 & incorporating modern hardware for the classics

I've got be honest here the Natami or the MiniMig AGA are the only possible future for me "upgrading" my Amigas. I've given up on the X1000 and Sams etc... don't really do it for me.

I simply want to be able to run all my old Amiga software like PageStream, ImageFX etc.. a wee bit faster (not into games much) and be able to buy and use new HDs/DVD drives and the like without having to pay 500 quid on ebay for an accelerator board.

Having looked at AROS, MorphOS, Broadway, OS4.1 and such I can now say they are not for me. Strange as it may seem to some I really don't want to run an Amiga that looks and feels like a PC or Mac or even use the type of software that they use. I now have a couple of Macs that take care of that side of things and I'm now even more convinced than ever that the Amiga doesn't need to try and imitate these machines.

For me 25 years of using the Amiga on a daily basis has never lost it's charm and folk can say what they want, but I'm happy using my miggies just the way gawd intended...

[bloodline]

I've got be honest here the Natami or the MiniMig AGA are the only possible future for me "upgrading" my Amigas. I've given up on the X1000 and Sams etc... don't really do it for me.

I simply want to be able to run all my old Amiga software like PageStream, ImageFX etc.. a wee bit faster (not into games much) and be able to buy and use new HDs/DVD drives and the like without having to pay 500 quid on ebay for an accelerator board.

Having looked at AROS, MorphOS, Broadway, OS4.1 and such I can now say they are not for me. Strange as it may seem to some I really don't want to run an Amiga that looks and feels like a PC or Mac or even use the type of software that they use.

And running AROS on your MiniMig or Natami is totally out of the question? :confused:

[Karlos]

And running AROS on your MiniMig or Natami is totally out of the question? :confused:

I think he's already expressed his views on AROS...

[klx300r]

I've got be honest here the Natami or the MiniMig AGA are the only possible future for me "upgrading" my Amigas. I've given up on the X1000 and Sams etc... don't really do it for me.

I simply want to be able to run all my old Amiga software like PageStream, ImageFX etc.. a wee bit faster (not into games much) and be able to buy and use new HDs/DVD drives and the like without having to pay 500 quid on ebay for an accelerator board.

oh, sorry I thought you still had your PPC card from your comments on other threads, anyhow I hope Natami comes out for you then as I don't think Minimig AGA will run things any faster than your current classic setup.

also, I believe AROS runs PageSteam and ImageFX quite nicely from videos that ClusterUK has out...perhaps you could try out AROS if you have an old PC lying around without investing in AOS or MOS licences:confused:

[desiv]

And running AROS on your MiniMig or Natami is totally out of the question? :confused:

Actually, it might be interesting...
If (when) there is a good AROS port for either or those machines (and general classic Amigas), it might create a migration path for some people who aren't considering it currently...

Will be interesting to watch the development (intended) on that..  ;-)

desiv

[Varthall]

Very good news, this will be a much needed communication channel from Hyperion regarding all their current projects.

Varthall

[kolla]

the AmigaOS4 rip off called AROS.

Surely you mean Amiga OS 3.1 rip off?