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Re: Jobs Movie
« on: August 16, 2013, 07:28:18 AM »
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Anyone going to see the Jobs movie tomorrow? I never understood Steve Jobs getting excited about black & white computers in the 1980s or killing the Newton. But I did respect what he did for the iPod, iPhone, iPad & Pixar. He made the world less boring. Too bad he passed on the Amiga and was not a fan. A Steve Jobs Amiga would have cost $100,000 anyway.

http://jobsthefilm.com/
You forgot to mention NeXT :)

I've never wanted or own a Mac... But I only have NeXTStep based machines in my house and in my pocket now ;)

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 10:23:29 AM »
@SysAdmin

Yup, I never owned (or at the time wanted) a NeXTStep machine, but since 2005, I've been a very happy NeXTStep user... Sure it's now called Mac/iPad/iPhone, but I don't care about names :) :)

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 12:29:24 PM »
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Any idea why he  was not a fan?


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Why Jobs was not a fan of Amiga?


There is an apocryphal quote attributed to Steve Jobs that he felt there was "too much hardware"... And in some respects he was right ;)

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2013, 01:13:24 PM »
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I saw this movie yesterday and while I did enjoy it a lot sure was skipped. No iPhone, iPad, OS X and much more missing. Even the iPod only got a minute or two of screentime.


Weird... For me the early Apple/Jobs story is quite interesting, but not that unusual (Microsoft story, the Acorn story, the Sinclair story, the Hi-Torro story etc were all around at that time)...

What is truly interesting is the Apple/Jobs story from 1996 onwards, he turned a failing company with no prospect of recovery into the biggest tech company on Earth. Love him or hate him, that is a fascinating story.

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2013, 02:46:07 PM »
I think there is an interview on YouTube with Dave Needle and RJ Michal... That give a really good idea of a garage full of guys trying to design what became the Amiga, long long before commodore... Every day they were on a knife edge of running out of money etc... :)

Also here... But this is a bit later...
http://youtu.be/9LAzSZKJ3o0

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2013, 03:09:06 PM »
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Jobs was a flaming ass hole. From day one!  The Woz was the brains behind most of Apple - why don't people give him the credit he deserves?
You are wrong, Steve Jobs was the genius of Apple. Woz is/was a brilliant engineer, but he had little idea how to direct his talents to making something that could be used by ordinary people. Steve Jobs was the guys who brought it all together, and Apple's strength always has been bring good ideas together in a form that people can use and more importantly want to use.

-edit- I came across too harsh there, my point was that apple is not about genius hardware aka woz... It is about cleverly mixing technologies, and that was Steve Jobs fortè :)
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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2013, 11:00:19 AM »
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Yeah, if you talked to him you would find out he was a real butt hole.
Believe me, I've never had any desire to talk to Steve Jobs :)

Carl Sassenrath on the other hand... ;)

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2013, 11:09:24 AM »
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@AmigaNG,

You are completely right, Jay was a really cool person, who had a lot of good idea's. The only thing was he worked for Commodore, and they wouldn't allow him to do half the stuff he wanted to try. Like when I was talking to him he really liked the 286 and 386 structure. He said if he knew those processors where going to be coming out, he would of loved to try them to see what they would do. Back when he chose the 68000 that was the chip of the day. I know I will get flamed on this one.
I'm sure Jay would have been very interested in the 386, it was a pretty cool CPU for it's time... Frankly had the x86 line be 32bit (with a flat memory model) when the Amiga was being developed, I expect the intel chips would have been chosen over the Motorola ones.

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2013, 07:42:23 PM »
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I don't like these "biopic" films either.  It's bordering on idolatry tbh and I find that quite sad.
Well... We all have our idols, we just don't call them that ;)