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Jobs Movie
« on: August 16, 2013, 02:55:26 AM »
Anyone going to see the Jobs movie tomorrow? I never understood Steve Jobs getting excited about black & white computers in the 1980s or killing the Newton. But I did respect what he did for the iPod, iPhone, iPad & Pixar. He made the world less boring. Too bad he passed on the Amiga and was not a fan. A Steve Jobs Amiga would have cost $100,000 anyway.

http://jobsthefilm.com/
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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 03:18:14 AM »
Feh, no. There's already enough nauseating mythmaking and revisionism surrounding the guy with the iCult in real life. Why would I want to watch a movie about The Legend of Techno-Christ?
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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 03:24:52 AM »
Bet Amiga or Commodore does not even get a mention in this film!
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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 07:28:18 AM »
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Anyone going to see the Jobs movie tomorrow? I never understood Steve Jobs getting excited about black & white computers in the 1980s or killing the Newton. But I did respect what he did for the iPod, iPhone, iPad & Pixar. He made the world less boring. Too bad he passed on the Amiga and was not a fan. A Steve Jobs Amiga would have cost $100,000 anyway.

http://jobsthefilm.com/
You forgot to mention NeXT :)

I've never wanted or own a Mac... But I only have NeXTStep based machines in my house and in my pocket now ;)

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 07:31:04 AM »
@bloodline

NeXT was okay but I never owned one since they cost $6,000. The first ones were greyscale, LOL. I'm glad the computer world has moved on from black & white and greyscale computers. I never understood the appeal.
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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 08:32:45 AM »
Better off staying home and watching Triumph of the Nerds or Pirates of Silicon Valley if you are into the Apple scene.

Triumph of the Nerds documentary is a must see for anyone that was around in the early days of computing.  Lots of Altair and such coverage there, but as  usual the little guys get passed over.
 

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 09:14:17 AM »
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You forgot to mention NeXT :)

I've never wanted or own a Mac... But I only have NeXTStep based machines in my house and in my pocket now ;)

Yup, probably Steve Jobs greatest trick in the computer industry. Renaming the NeXT computer into the Mac. The Mac that old timers loved for some strange reason was dead and buried long ago.
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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 10:22:16 AM »
I'm not. I disliked Steve Jobs.

I do think Ashton Kutcher resembles him enough for the movie, though. But Noah Wyle(?) in The Pirates of Silicon Valley seemed to get that perky arrogance down pat. :roflmao:
 

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2013, 10:23:29 AM »
@SysAdmin

Yup, I never owned (or at the time wanted) a NeXTStep machine, but since 2005, I've been a very happy NeXTStep user... Sure it's now called Mac/iPad/iPhone, but I don't care about names :) :)

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 10:32:26 AM »
I'm going to see this in about six hours. I'm not a Steve Jobs fan per say but I do respect what he was able to do in the 2000's. Without him everybody might be using Windows. I'll report back if it was any good. Hopefully Jon Cryer or Charlie Sheen makes a guest appearance in the movie.

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 11:45:24 AM »
Any idea why he  was not a fan?
 

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 11:48:20 AM »
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Any idea why he  was not a fan?

Why Jobs was not a fan of Amiga?
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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2013, 12:29:24 PM »
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Any idea why he  was not a fan?


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Why Jobs was not a fan of Amiga?


There is an apocryphal quote attributed to Steve Jobs that he felt there was "too much hardware"... And in some respects he was right ;)

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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2013, 07:15:02 AM »
I saw this movie yesterday and while I did enjoy it a lot sure was skipped. No iPhone, iPad, OS X and much more missing. Even the iPod only got a minute or two of screentime. A few too many black and white Macs for my liking. Those were the sh*tty ones, show the good stuff. I was surprised that the CBM Pet got a little screentime but of course as always the Amiga got screwed and not even a mention. These films love to pretend like the Amiga never even existed. Even Bill Gates got no airtime unless you count Jobs cussing him out over the phone. I don't like how the film suddenly just jumped ahead almost 10 years in the timeline skipping much. Anyone not already familiar with the Apple story would have got lost. Read this audiobook if you want the whole story. Don't expect the Amiga to get even a passing mention.

http://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648537/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376719978&sr=8-1&keywords=Jobs
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Re: Jobs Movie
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2013, 08:21:24 AM »
Knew the movie would be a bit thin, as it was said it'd end right at the iPod days.  I was no fan of Jobs, but I always liked the story of how he turned the compant around when he came back.  Apple was in serious trouble in those days.  Hoping the Sorkin one will be a bit better, but hey - Pirates of Silicon Valley, just watch it, eh?  It's on Vimeo and YouTube.  That being said, the book you recommend is just great.  Not an Apple fanboy here, but the Isaacson book is terrific.  It's truly a great read even if you are the most vehement Apple watcher - though I recommend iWoz by Wozniak more if you're into more "general computer" reads.  Covers a lot of the fun, renegade spirit that we all encountered during the early days of computing regardless of what platform you used.  Woz's book is complete Computer Nerd Porn, but it's well work reading.  The dude is an extremely talented and humble man.

I was always extremely interested in how things would have went if Apple had of bought the rights to BeOS versus buying NeXT out when it came time for them to update the Mac OS.  Both were a diceroll, really.  I loved BeOS, and still do.  I've often been curious if Jean-Louis Gassee has had serious regrets about not selling it.  I mean, he was asking $200 million and Apple offered $125 million.  He stood his ground and Apple went with NeXT.  I'm sure I'd like Apple computers more these days if Gassee had lowered his price, though I am not entirely sure things like the iPod would have come around had Apple not picked up NeXT and Jobs.  Sculley did a hell of a lot of damage in the time he was there in regards to Apple's long term sustainability.  

I used NeXTSTEP briefly back in the day and was never impressed with it bang for buck wise.  They had a few NeXT boxes at the local university I fiddled with and really liked, until the computer lab manager mentioned they were $5000+ machines, heh.

None of 'em ever matched the uniqueness and sheer fun that the Amiga offered.  Was very few machine then that could do it all, and Amiga was one of them.  Gamers and productivity folks such as myself just adored them, and most still do.
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