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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 03:18:30 AM »
I can see their point. If I owned a company I wouldn't want staff, especially sales, going of and buying the competitors stuff with my money.

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 03:23:46 AM »
If only they'd done this with whatever marketing ninnies were behind Metro Team...
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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 03:52:14 AM »
misleading topic? they can buy what they like. it's about company money no (as mentioned in the thread). doesn't seem unreasonable.
 

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 06:01:43 AM »
Nothing unusual here except that Microsoft sells software for Macs. Sales and marketing can't use Macs to push Office for Mac? What about all those highly skilled marketing designers trained and experienced on Mac versions of software? Policies that unnecessarily restrict the tool choices of creatives are wondrously wrongheaded. (Skilled artists and artisans aren't usually limited by their tools, but preferences exist nonetheless.)
 

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 07:04:30 AM »
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Nothing unusual here except that Microsoft sells software for Macs. Sales and marketing can't use Macs to push Office for Mac?
From what we know, it's ridiculous to assume they haven't already got cases like this covered.

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What about all those highly skilled marketing designers trained and experienced on Mac versions of software?
Which ones? Oh, right, none of us have any idea if these people actually exist within the company, and until we do, what you say is just an imaginary fabrication.

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Policies that unnecessarily restrict the tool choices of creatives are wondrously wrongheaded. (Skilled artists and artisans aren't usually limited by their tools, but preferences exist nonetheless.)
The Adobe suite isn't exclusive to the Mac, you know. I could see your point if there was any particular lapse in Windows softare that the Mac's got covered, or if the operation of the system was vastly different, but none of those have been true for ages. I know Apple have been pushing the idea of the Mac as the machine of choice for creative, free spirits and artists, and both companies and individuals have swallowed the bait whole, but it just doesn't hold water any more.
 

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 11:43:32 AM »
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misleading topic? they can buy what they like. it's about company money no (as mentioned in the thread). doesn't seem unreasonable.


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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 11:54:09 AM »
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misleading topic? they can buy what they like. it's about company money no (as mentioned in the thread). doesn't seem unreasonable.
The idea that Microsoft restrict the use of company funds to purchase Macs and iPads isn't unusual or surprising... What is significant is the fact that they had to state this in the memo! The implication is that their own products can't compete without this policy :)

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 12:29:20 PM »
Not sure why anyone is surprised at this.  Companies I contract for will not subsidize products unrelated to their core business, and I am a MCSE/MCSA.  Do you think for a moment Apple is buying their developers that develop OS X software Windows PC's?  They aren't.

I wanted a Mac Air, I bought it on my dime.  Walked out the door of Best Buy with it and a copy of Windows 7 knowing full well I couldn't bill the company for a non native Windows machine.  Best Windows laptop I've ever owned, btw.  I got an iPhone on my dime, knowing said employer will only support write-offs/subsidy of Blackberry products.
 

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2012, 12:31:21 PM »
What I wanna know is: What the hell does it matter, and who the hell cares?
 

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2012, 02:17:08 PM »
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The implication is that their own products can't compete without this policy :)

No, it isn't.
 

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2012, 02:45:08 PM »
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No, it isn't.
Yes it is!

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 03:20:12 PM »
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Which ones? Oh, right, none of us have any idea if these people actually exist within the company, and until we do, what you say is just an imaginary fabrication.

Are you sure about that? Anyway, it would be a supposition, not a fabrication.

I never mentioned Adobe, but Microsoft does have numerous products and technologies that compete directly with Adobe's.

On the surface, this isn't much different from policies that prevent employees from wearing a competitor's labeled clothing to work.
 

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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 03:21:31 PM »
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Yes it is!

The burden of explaining your reasoning lies on you. This is the leaked email: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-banning-mac-ipad-purchases-by-its-sales-and-marketing-group/12221
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Re: Microsoft Barring Certain Staff From Buying Macs, iPads?
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 03:29:58 PM »
Perhaps they want use a real computer, the next step to use a real operative system, hey Hyperion or MorphOS Team prepare the cash register.
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