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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« on: December 15, 2011, 11:12:27 PM »
Quote from: Belial6;642107
A simple search of 2H11 shows that it is pretty commonly used, and that it is not regional.

@Darrin and Franko

The two of you are complaining about hijacking threads?  Really?  That is some pretty thick irony there.

@runequester
Yes, those that pre-orderd have given them a chance.  Just keep in mind that the C64x has not missed it's promise date from the time that pre-orders started.

I do think that it was a poor choice to take pre-orders on anything Commodore/Amiga related without a strong pre-existing track record.


They did space out a date for Amigas, since they have been announceing them for 1 year or so? And CommodoreVISION is beta tested by end users?
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 11:35:13 PM »
Quote from: HammerD;577535
Iggy, did you ask him anything about:

1) How many employees C= USA has?
2) Does he plan to do any SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT for AROS? Or in any other way to support and promote it?

He's bought the C= name, the Amiga name rights, and plans to sell x86 boxes in old C= style cases and throw on bundled OS's.   Not very exciting and not interesting if he doesn't plan to support and augment AROS development.


1) So far we know of Leo Negro (nice name and surname!) or BigAussie
and BarryAltman. Probably few more persons
2) Leo promised AROS bounty, but didn`t deliver. So far they did no real software development.
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 03:34:38 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;577251
After a few vitriolic message from me and couple sent back, I've agreed to call Mr. Altman tomorrow to discuss his company at its business plans.
Many of you know me and opinions about this company and its plans from postings I've made in response to the messages posted about Commodore USA.

So, to say the least, this may be a somewhat contentious conversation. However, Barry's of the opinion that if I give him a fair hearing I'll be swayed by what he has to say.

So, now is your chance, folks. If there's anything you think I ought to ask, post it now.
I'll try to have a concise outline of what I want to cover when I talk to him.

I'll post a summary of our conversation tomorrow.


Next time don`t forget to ask Baron about real bussiness behind CUSA
http://www.homecraft.us/vanity_about_vanity.html

P.S.
Golden retriever is the best part of CUSA team! For next CEO!
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 06:55:37 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;681108
Actually, that's not fair.
I talked to Barry when he was still considering AROS and he asked me what I thought.
I (and others) told him it wasn't complete and stable enough.

Come on guys. Its neat for us hobbyists, but it hasn't reached 1.0 status yet.
When AROS is no longer in alpha or beta status, then may it would be worth shipping with a computer system that you could rely on not crashing.

People don't want to buy computers that can be assured to crash.


Meanwhile AROS has quite progressed  Including blend with Linux and Multimedia center. Its said to compare original Leo`s statement on AROS (see early news on CUSA website) to Barry`s pissed statement that it holds no worth ...
Bringing FF and OO to AROS could be done meanwhile and machine would be dual or tripple booting where AROS could be candy for Amiga enthusiasts (that is how I imagined it from start and Leo promoted with early Phoenix product
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzsmiuEYUQY
Vague promises of support are evidenced on AROS EXEC also.
Serious people would support AROS and unofficially recommend it.

Linux is neither popular as mainstream OS, even its far more usable and they ship machines with it (before Ubuntu, now Mint 11).  And yes, they ship with Beta 6

On the other hand, how much R&D you can expect from a team where
only 1 person is IT pro
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_Corporate.aspx

Barons bio hides the point he is also a CEO of furniture company.
One man should do one job well and leave to others to do pro job,
leaving his shares, investments ...
http://www.homecraft.us/vanity_about_vanity.html

Woolf2Moon sais CUSA is same or better as ASUS. In support, product history and innovation, sales ... NOT
PRICE> and x86 system prices are such that for 999$ Commodore Ultimate you can get ASUS ZenBook: Laptop with MONITOR, WINDOWS,SSD, i5 instead of ATOM ... not to speak of the desktop systems

Those who say Atom based no VDU unit for $999 say that X1000 is rip off

If it was AROS supporting PC like AresOne or somehow connected to real Commodore or AmigaOS development ....

Cheaper solution is
http://www.zazzle.com/amiga+stickers
http://www.zazzle.com/commodore+stickers

About 6$

+ 999$ PC that you assemble.

Lot of broken promises, hot air sales and bad words ...
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 06:58:45 PM »
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I donate to Aros bounties.
The money is used to purchase the crystal meth and cocaine that it takes to code for 48 hour marathons. Some bounty takers also buy pizza and beer.
Others buy asian hookers. I say, whatever it takes to keep them coding and motivated.


Love the signature :-)
Even crystal meth and coke would be substituted with sack of weed and case of beer. More longelivity.

And how much effort was "COS development"? Making wallpapers?
Compiling kernel to existing drivers? Adding new free packages?

Linux should make machines be cheaper, not more expensive.
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 09:37:36 PM »
Quote from: CritAnime;681134
more on their stance with aros might be in this thread (http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/27-commodore-usa/12492-join-the-forces#12534) but I really can't be bothered to drag myself through all the balls in the thread.


Will not register at their forum just because they don`t care for the users opinion at all. Whatever their own fans and customers suggested, they always find excuse.

Point is they don`t really want to invest much as explained, they want to sell sell sell (barebones, systems, whatever). And I don`t even see promised massive media campaigns (on Internet, US Amiga owners would report TV commercials), even decent website took 6 months. There is not even FTP for OS download. Keep the costs low. No R&D. No products in stores as they promised, just direct online buy. Not even a new product after C64x (changin inner components doesn`t change anything, since as long as it fits inside, they can put someone elses products - they don`t make boards or any components).

And yes,multilevel and viral fakerism if possible.

This explains while any desire for software or HW development that is not case with slapped sticker is turned down. Using free Linux as emulation that there is OS they give for free. Killing iCoin because they produced
"Amiga" slapped tablets, phones, AIO, iMac style PeeCees demanding not so much higher price then hardware itself.

And Harkonnen way of PR putting down everything else.

New strain of LCCs.
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 12:09:08 AM »
Quote from: Darrin;681159
#1:  Dammy
#2:  Ben
#3....

OK, you have a point.  ;)


Sad thing is almost every Amiga board has at least one of their trollish accounts, including some on You Tube too poisoning existing Amiga videos ... shame.

Damocles (Dammy), Wolf to The Moon & exec /AW.net

And yet they claim to be superior "x86 AmiganS" with big dreams of "IT world conquest" and new AmigaLinuxOS CUSA will make for them ...

What people managed to do in brainwashing with just 2 name licences and 1 new case  ...
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 12:17:46 AM »
Quote from: kedawa;681148
It's been a gong show since day one.
That product line and pricing in this economy is a recipe for failure.


As company, quality of products and responsibility for the support to users come first.

This is how CommodoreOS looks from outsiders user exp
http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/8-commodore-os-howto-and-help/12725-new-user-lots-of-questions#12733

As of democracy, just seen this on the forum
[moderated: No links to sites containing competing products are allowed]

As well as we know no comments on YouTube, instant deletition on FB of anyone that mentions AmigaOS etc.
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Re: Barry Altman and Commodore USA
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 02:23:04 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;577251
After a few vitriolic message from me and couple sent back, I've agreed to call Mr. Altman tomorrow to discuss his company at its business plans.
Many of you know me and opinions about this company and its plans from postings I've made in response to the messages posted about Commodore USA.

So, to say the least, this may be a somewhat contentious conversation. However, Barry's of the opinion that if I give him a fair hearing I'll be swayed by what he has to say.

So, now is your chance, folks. If there's anything you think I ought to ask, post it now.
I'll try to have a concise outline of what I want to cover when I talk to him.

I'll post a summary of our conversation tomorrow.


I ve agreed to build blog on this famous company.
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Do I get Amiga Mini or C64x?
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