Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released

[the_leander]

While I think highly of Haiku, this comment is far from appropriate.

Whether you like it or not, it's the truth.

I suggest you use this:



@Persia

There is a UAE port available on Bebits. Dunno if it's been updated recently however.

--edit--

BeOS version of UAE is available here.

I believe the version that shipped with Zeta was more up to date, though that's not really saying much if I'm honest.

[the_leander]

Then the work in browsers for aos4 or morphos is time waste?

:idea:

Nowhere has anyone said that or implied it.

Then aos4 or morphos are inusable?

No one has said that either.

Im stay with amigaos and morphos thanks.

Good for you!

Seriously though, what the hell is with all the defensiveness on this?

I'm glad I found that form, it appears there is a definite need for it in this thread.

[the_leander]

@the_leander

I take it you'll be test driving Haiku then?

What do you mean "will be"?

In terms of reliability it is around the Zeta RC1.3 mark.

In terms of looks... Its more barren then Zeta was, more in line with BeOS which is neither a compliment nor a complaint.

I like where it's going and assuming it gets some power management and wireless I can well imagine this ending up on my EeePC full time.

Dual boot between Haiku and Elive... :afro:

[the_leander]

It's an assumption that you aren't about to stop test driving it in the near future

Nice save!:roflmao:

[the_leander]

@the_leander

You talk about ismart post about browsers... or im dreaming and suggesting a stupid test...

Err nope, I didn't mention browsers. Not once anywhere in this thread until this post and I cut the comment short because that was a separate point. There was no test either, so I can only suggest you didn't bother reading one word of what I wrote.

TheMagicM stated that right now, Haiku is more usable then AmigaOS is.

Which is correct. It is.

I still love the old miggy and it holds a place in my heart that no other OS will, but it has limitations that cannot be ignored. Bawwing that pointing it out is inappropriate earned some mockery, likewise your response was equally worthy of ridicule.

[the_leander]

I really like Haiku, they didn't just blindly recreate Beos, they gave it a few modern feature as well.  It's hardware requirements are low, it's organisation logical and yet it's not completely foreign to users of modern OSs.  

Yup, its not as bulked out as Zeta was, but not so bare as BeOS... It's its own thing.

I know the concentration right now is on developing a desktop version but I hope they consider making a version for mobile devices.

So, a HaikuIA alike? Speaking of which... Somewhere around here I still have my BeIA image build tools. Some very cool stuff was made just prior to Be Inc's death. Tbh with the use of either webkit or firefox one could probably reproduce BeIA in a purely OSS form (the original BeIA used Opera 4 as the basis for it's gui)

:afro:

In a way it's a lot like what I would have expected from Amiga OS had it's owners survived the '90s and continued to develop the OS.

Given that it took more then a few pointers from AmigaOS (amongst others), it's hardly surprising that it has similar features.  

[the_leander]

OK, its old, limitations... but with morphsos or aos4 is more usable these days, and for usability, whats usability? is not the same for everyone.

Oh we're going down this road... Right.

You just can't stand the fact that someone pointed out that MorphOS and or AmigaOS4 are both in terms of software and hardware less capable then something else.

We are talking about haiku like a top class OS and this isnt correct too.

There you go again, you really can't help yourself, can you? This is an Alpha release of Haiku, not even close to the finished product!

@MrA500 - last time there was a major jump in software development was off of the back of Zeta, sadly with the collapse of that (cheers Bernd Korz), it looks like it was pretty much tools down if bebits is anything to go by.

So I agree, hopefully this will be the stimulus to expand beyond maintaining a handful of ports for key software such as firefox and VLC.

[the_leander]

Have you tried any BeOS game on Haiku?
What games were available for BeOS back in the day? I love discovering OS's with their games: it's a great way to explore their response, their look & feel, their sound and graphics characteristics... I'm talking about classic games: Lemmings for BeOS or something like that?

Games on BeOS were fairly limited.. There were ports of Quake 1&2, as well as QW, There was an (incomplete and hard to acquire) port of Worms Armageddon, Doom, Rise of the Triad and a handful of home-grown games of dubious quality.

Had a pretty good port of ScummVM though, which kept me amused for days with such classics as Beneath A Steal Sky and Monkey Island.

YMMV.

[the_leander]

@the_leander

Oi, you nicked my activity medal :p

Is that some delicious bawwing I hear? :lol:

Who knows, given a decade or more, I might conceivably be able to challenge you for the post count record

--edit--

It all comes of having earned myself a week long ban on another site whose name I cannot mention for fear of breaking rules 1&2 of the interbutts

[the_leander]

Was it fight club.

I can only suggest that you google "Rules 1 and 2 of the internet" and look for the resulting ED page.

:afro:

[the_leander]

:laughing:

Well there was no way I was going to break that rule

[the_leander]

you can always do a highly detailed and technical comparison of the two

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haikuos  ----------------------------------+
morphos2 --------------------------------+ |
amigaos4 ------------------------------+ | |
=======================================V V V
modern browers                         Y Y Y
can play classic miggy games natively  N N N
can play classic miggy games emulated  Y Y Y
has basic office suite                 Y Y Y
can play mp3                           Y Y Y
can read pdf                           Y Y Y
can view dvds                          Y Y Y
[B]has memory protection[/B]                  [B]Y[/B] Y Y
has good multitasking                  Y Y Y
can do memory paging                   Y Y Y
has rabid fans                         Y Y Y
small fast and light                   Y Y Y
do I need expensive hardware to run it Y Y N
do I need to buy a license for OS      Y Y N
Is this a niche hobby os               Y Y Y
will this post upset fanatics          Y Y Y
am I being serious                     N N N


hey look, its a wash except for the expensive hardware bit and cost to buy/register.

Since when has AmigaOS4 had memory protection?