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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => CommodoreUSA Amiga => Topic started by: dammy on December 29, 2011, 04:26:33 AM
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http://www.commodore-amiga.org/en/forum/27-commodore-usa/11229-commodore-trademark-has-a-new-daddy--#11229
Hope you all invested in the popcorn futures. 2012 is going to be a wild year.
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
You wished. :rofl:
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So Barry force the two companies into bankruptcy? Pretty mean spirited, but I suppose you have to be ruthless in the face of the competition. Part of why Microsoft was dominant was because of it's ruthlessness.
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So Barry force the two companies into bankruptcy? Pretty mean spirited, but I suppose you have to be ruthless in the face of the competition. Part of why Microsoft was dominant was because of it's ruthlessness.
Well, it's not like those two companies were the pinnacle of business competence. Have they shipped anything in the past 3 years?
I will now resume my position on the sidelines. Not getting involved with this Commodore USA stuff.
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Well, it's not like those two companies were the pinnacle of business competence. Have they shipped anything in the past 3 years?
I wouldn't be surprised if the SEC does an investigation of those now defunct companies. Oh well, on to bigger and better things under the C= name.
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Unless they had some kind of overseas operation they probably are out of the SEC's jurisdiction...
But I don't begrudge C=USA's use of lawyers to get it's way, the IT industries leaders (Apple & Microsoft) spend the equivalent of a third world country's GDP on Lawyers. It's all part of the game, and the fact that Barry was able to play the game speaks well for C=USA.
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Unless they had some kind of overseas operation they probably are out of the SEC's jurisdiction...
No, they were filing quarterly reports with the SEC, and their stock was on the pink sheet so SEC has some legal authority in this matter.
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No, they were filing quarterly reports with the SEC, and their stock was on the pink sheet so SEC has some legal authority in this matter.
I'll assume it was meant to be humorous when Leo's response to why CUSA is still paying licensing fees if they were "the new daddy" was:
No, they were announcements on the possibility of announcements not the actual announcements.
source (http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/5-commodore-amiga-hardware-wishlist-/10991-cusa-commodore-amiga-concept-designs?limit=15&start=270&lang=en#13257)
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C=Holdings B.V. v. Asiarim Corporation et al
quite a lot of new documents filed (http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trademark-lawsuits/new-york-southern-district-court/89537/c-holdings-b-v-v-asiarim-corporation-et-al/official-court-documents/)
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Brief summary, current as of today, posted courtesy Barry Altman:
C=Holdings B.V. v. Asiarim Corporation et al (http://www.commodore-amiga.org/forum/27-commodore-usa/14029-more-forums-that-welcome-new-commodore?limit=15&start=75&lang=en#14327)
No sooner was this posted than another new document dated yesterday has been posted:
April 11, 2012 (http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trademark-lawsuits/new-york-southern-district-court/89537/c-holdings-b-v-v-asiarim-corporation-et-al/official-court-documents/)
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Once again, not all docs are listed on the website the day they are filed, so we have another new onslaught of docs appearing now.
9 new ones since the last appeared in April, but 1 not available electronically.
source (http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trademark-lawsuits/new-york-southern-district-court/89537/c-holdings-b-v-v-asiarim-corporation-et-al/official-court-documents/)
Enjoy!
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Once again, not all docs are listed on the website the day they are filed, so we have another new onslaught of docs appearing now.
9 new ones since the last appeared in April, but 1 not available electronically.
source (http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trademark-lawsuits/new-york-southern-district-court/89537/c-holdings-b-v-v-asiarim-corporation-et-al/official-court-documents/)
Enjoy!
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So who owns what now?
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Anyone know what happened with this?
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Anyone know what happened with this?
My guess is that someone with delusions of grandeur got a reality check. ;)
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the new circus comes to town (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=28292&forum=17&start=60&viewmode=flat&order=0#704610)
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the new circus comes to town (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=28292&forum=17&start=60&viewmode=flat&order=0#704610)
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But what does it all mean, Basil?
(http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/film_images/Austin_Danger_Powers_Mike_Myers.jpg)
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@TheBilgeRat
I just discovered this most recent lawsuit, so it will take some time to gather any facts.
But logically, something does not add up here to me.
This is, in effect a counter suit directed at one of the parties involved in fighting over the Commodore parent company. If that suit has not been settled, I just wonder why Leadgate S.A. is filing solely against the plaintiff.
The other mystery is the fact that Asiarim based its last gasp chance for revenue on a relationship with CommodoreUSA. Without that relationship, they've got squat.
Why then is more money being poured into this battle and new participants coming to join the fray?
Logic would say a new unnamed player is on the scene or something similar, but that's merely speculation. After all, they've been fighting over nothing for eons. But either way that proves to me that although forum posts from users see little value to branding, the big players still do.
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I have posted on AW.net about my views on this. But just so people can see I will post a summery.
Leadgate S.A. looks to be a investment consortium. But this might shed light on it. http://uruguaybr.com/2012/06/16/leadgate-turns-in-its-shares-of-flag-air-carrier-pluna-and-leaves-behind-301-5-million-usd-in-debt/
Now working for a bank a while back I dealt with collecting debt owed by buisnesses. From my pespective it would appear that regarldess of initial investment been returned there is probably some form of outstanding debt, ?interest ?admin fees, and they are now chasing for it.
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I have posted on AW.net about my views on this. But just so people can see I will post a summery.
Leadgate S.A. looks to be a investment consortium. But this might shed light on it. http://uruguaybr.com/2012/06/16/leadgate-turns-in-its-shares-of-flag-air-carrier-pluna-and-leaves-behind-301-5-million-usd-in-debt/
Now working for a bank a while back I dealt with collecting debt owed by buisnesses. From my pespective it would appear that regarldess of initial investment been returned there is probably some form of outstanding debt, ?interest ?admin fees, and they are now chasing for it.
Indeed C= Trade Mark Has A New Daddy.
Source (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=28292&forum=17&start=60&viewmode=flat&order=0#725850)
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Indeed C= Trade Mark Has A New Daddy.
Source (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=28292&forum=17&start=60&viewmode=flat&order=0#725850)
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Trademark has passed opposition period and is now registered:
with links (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=28292&forum=17&start=80&viewmode=flat&order=0#727251)
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