The X1000 will be > $2,225

[Karlos]

Yeah, was following events on a few of our sister sites myself. That's certainly a fair old wedge, even for a complete system.

[Karlos]

It is pricey but I think the biggest problem with it is that big box PCs/Amigas look bulky... even at the work we are losing our last tower PCs soon. It probably would sell better if it was very tiny, less features, but still the same price tag...

My PC is truly massive :lol:

[Karlos]

"North of 1500" GBP?  I'll stick to my original guess of 200-350 units sold in the first 12 months, including the 100 Dev boards.  ACube's 460 looks mighty cheap compared to the A1X1K.

1500+ GBP is rather more than I could reasonably justify for a hobby system. Of course, the thing with justification is that it's sometimes easier not to bother. After all, if I think how much I've spent on computer kit over the years...

Still, I guess it's not bad news for ACube.

[Karlos]

Given the cost involved in designing and producing a new hardware platform and the need to make some profit out of it (if there is to be any continuation of the effort), I can believe the 1500+ mark. Especially also given the comparatively small production run sizes. Trevor's own words were to the effect of "I can't see it costing less than that".

[Karlos]

@Karlos
sounds reasonable, but what if a better deal comes up and they save some money? Trevor couldn't know that yesterday right? and  then the other statement I posted was made afterward, in any case, I believe they WILL try to shave it as much as they can, but to really know we can only wait and see as the only official reply (not "estimate" those can change with new deals) was "I DON'T KNOW"

I don't want to sound like I'm peeing on your cornflakes but there are a lot of "what if's" here. At best, perhaps the 1500 figure was his best guess. It would be nice to think that the X1000 will be available for less than 1500 when released but I wouldn't advise people pin their hopes on it.

[Karlos]

Obviously, this is a very different market though for this to make round two, they wouldn't want to set the price too high.

Well, to be fair, all major console manufacturers have followed that route, recouping the cost in software sales. Furthermore, Microsoft can afford to make a loss on hardware, given the vast amounts of wealth they have at their disposal.

I really don't think it's a reasonable comparison here. Unless Trevor is a massively minted eccentric, I just don't see that model working here.

[Karlos]

Let's say the X1000 hits the street at 1,500. Certainly pricey but I will gladly sell my µA1 to get into the market. I am sure other A1 XE, SE and µA1 will do the same. What do used A1s go for these days?

That depends. If you had the choice of a second hand A1 or a new Sam, which would you pick? The new 460 board doesn't look half bad.

[Karlos]

The Pegasos2 MB was sold at that price AFAIK.

The Peg2 was a decent system at a reasonable price (by amiga hardware standards).

Why did they stop making it?

[Karlos]

Because the European Union introduced the RoHS directive for environmental reasons, meaning that the board would require a major redesign, and since the board already had aged a few years, they dropped it instead.

Surely RoHS compliance required only a change to the materials used in the PCB itself and using lead free solder rather than any electronic redesign. Which, assuming board production was outsourced anyway, should not have really been much of a problem regardless.

[Karlos]

I think the intimation (call it what you will) that the price will be in excess of 1500 UKP has gotten people pretty wound up.

Probably best if we all just sit back and relax. Arguing with each other and getting into off-topic personal spats isn't going to actually make it any cheaper.