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Operating System Specific Discussions => AROS Research Operating System => Topic started by: som99 on July 22, 2010, 08:39:48 AM
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Well I had nothing to do a few days ago, so I booted my old trusty Xbox with Gentoo and wanted to run AROS on it :)
Since AROS x86 cant run nativly out of the box so I went ahead and installed XFree86 on it since its possible to get it to drain less ram then xorg. Then after countless issues and disabeling XFCE to save ram I realized XFree86 drains 32MB Ram :( But after some tweaking I got the AROS Linux-i386 build to start, BUT it was totally unusable due to the little amount of RAM in the Xbox (the xbox has 64MB and less then 30MB free at boot of AROS).
So now I want to know if anyone has gotten a x86 build of AROS running on the Xbox?
Also I got a Xbox 360 sitting at home begging me to use a custom bootloader and get PPC Linux on it. So has anyone tried to run the hosted AROS for PPC Linux on the 360?
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I always thought it would be cool to mod my game consoles but I never have. I ran some homebrew on my dreamcast which was pretty cool but nothing on the xbox.
Is there any way to boot a native aros setup? Or would it have to be built specifically for the xbox?
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I always thought it would be cool to mod my game consoles but I never have. I ran some homebrew on my dreamcast which was pretty cool but nothing on the xbox.
Is there any way to boot a native aros setup? Or would it have to be built specifically for the xbox?
There's always WiiUAE. :)
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Softmodding an xbox is easy as pie. Search around on google. XBMC is the best media centre there is , Easily connects to windows shares for media. Alows you to backup games to the HDD. There are good versions of snes etc emulators so you can fill it with roms.
You can pick up seceond hand xbox for £10 and chuck a 250gig HDD in it for next to nothing. Its the way to go. Make the xbox such an amazing piece of kit.
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@som99
Have you tried to use a cut down version of AROS, maybe from the nightly without all the eye candy? Theme software use to eat a ton of RAM and it's not really needed.
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There's always WiiUAE. :)
You were always crazy about the gamecube weren't you, running aos4 on it?
I finally got a gamecube and a wii they are really cool systems. does wiiuae work pretty well? How do you set it up?
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I always thought it would be cool to mod my game consoles but I never have. I ran some homebrew on my dreamcast which was pretty cool but nothing on the xbox.
Is there any way to boot a native aros setup? Or would it have to be built specifically for the xbox?
Currently there is no way to run AROS native on the xbox, I guess the Bios has to be rewritten a bit before it would work. Else it might be possible to adept the AROS build for Cromwell bios.
@som99
Have you tried to use a cut down version of AROS, maybe from the nightly without all the eye candy? Theme software use to eat a ton of RAM and it's not really needed.
I had to run it as bare as possible to even get it started :( I wish I had an extra xbox then I could solder 64MB more ram on it and with 128MB ram in total, then I bet it would atleast be runable :)
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Depending upon on dedicated you are, you can always take the ram from another XBOX mobo and add it to your current one, thus giving you a total of 128Mb or RAM.
There are guides for this on XBOX-scene and youtube.
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Depending upon on dedicated you are, you can always take the ram from another XBOX mobo and add it to your current one, thus giving you a total of 128Mb or RAM.
There are guides for this on XBOX-scene and youtube.
I know, I wrote that in a previous post ;)
Ive done it before in the past.
Tho I do not put high priority on that right now since it was all just for fun.
So im not spending anything on the xbox, also the hdd I had in the xbox (a 160GB) just died on me a hour or so ago. So im currently replacing it and starting all over, but since the Xbox is quite limited I might see what I can do on the 360 instead ;)
But I have one last plan on the xbox, ill write back here when ive tried it!
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Softmodding an xbox is easy as pie. Search around on google. XBMC is the best media centre there is , Easily connects to windows shares for media. Alows you to backup games to the HDD. There are good versions of snes etc emulators so you can fill it with roms.
You can pick up seceond hand xbox for £10 and chuck a 250gig HDD in it for next to nothing. Its the way to go. Make the xbox such an amazing piece of kit.
PS3 is much better than Xbox for media sharing.
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PS3 is slightly! more expensive than an xbox1, and although it can decode 1080p h264 with ease, various formats will need to be transcoded for it. I don't think the ps3 is really comparable to XBMC for functionality though.
considering the cost of a second hand xbox, it can make a fantastic media center, which so long as you don't want HD h264 playback, will do a great job. (You can do 720p mpeg4 at ~5000kbit though if you want to transcode from h264 etc)
BTW the home for the xbox version of xbmc is now at http://www.xbmc4xbox.org for those that are interested. friendly community/forum too.
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we have an Xbox 360 in the house now, I'm wondering if it's possible to run AROS as a usermode application on it. Boot from a CD or otherwise.
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Only way to run AROS on an XBox360 is the same way as running AROS on the original XBox, and that is to run it hosted on Linux. PPC native versions of AROS are limited to Sam440 and Efika, to run it on any other PPC hardware you'll need to run it hosted.
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Only way to run AROS on an XBox360 is the same way as running AROS on the original XBox, and that is to run it hosted on Linux. PPC native versions of AROS are limited to Sam440 and Efika, to run it on any other PPC hardware you'll need to run it hosted.
Any reason why? Being able to run it native would be awesome on a stick. If it means massive coding, it might give me something to do.
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If you feel brave enough then you could remove the existing RAM, requires desoldering, and replace it with 128MB. This greatly improves performance with emulation and homebrew stuff. I personally didn't do this when I had an xbox but I got my friend, who does fine soldering for a living, to do it for me.
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Heh, I actually run a service for Steel Battalion players on another site to help people softmod their original Xbox. I also tracked down a guy in Russia who does physical updates to Xbox motherboards to install a 1.4 GHz. CPU and update the memory. ;)
Don't know who wants to pay for the upgrade, but I'll offer to anyone here the same service. Just PM me and be willing to pay shipping to and from your place and we can get it going. :D
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PS3 is much better than Xbox for media sharing.
Having both systems I have to say I just don't agree. The PS3 has hi-def sure, but my trusty ol' XBox with XBMC is a joy to use (for those that don't realise it, the XBox can do 720p and 1080i by the way). I've found many a video file the PS3 just will not play due to being an unsupported format and the XBox plays them all. For ten quid plus the cost of the drive it stands out as one of the best tech bargains around.
I also watch movies and play mp3 on my old GBA too. Wonderful what can be done with a bit of hardware abuse.
Meanwhile, back on topic. I would love to see a specific XBox AROS build, someone should mention it to buzz.
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Any reason why? Being able to run it native would be awesome on a stick. If it means massive coding, it might give me something to do.
It simply hasnt been ported to that hardware yet. Even Xbox1 needs a little work, despite its gpu and audio hardware more or less being supported in aros.
There's a few efforts at the moment to create something that appears native to the user while having the benefit of utilising the hardware that linux supports though. This is probably the closest a person will get until someone with an interest decides to port AROS to said systems. There's just recently been a wrapper of sorts finished to allow for 3d hardware access under hosted too.
Not a "perfect" solution for purists, but quite handy for bringing aros to places it cant, or can only partially go for the moment.
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I didn't even know you could pay for XBMC.