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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: lionstorm on July 31, 2003, 11:50:20 AM
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In your eyes what is your best flight sims on amiga (wings aside) with old aircrafts ? And bonus question which one is the best in head to head duel ? (=cpu vs cpu)
here is the games I remember :
B17 flying fortress
Dawn patrol
Knights of the sky
Operation overlord
Red Baron
Reach for the skies
Lio
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F29 and F/A-18 were top bollox
but nothing beats that Shareware classic... Biplanes as available on serveral AmigaFormat Cover disks over the years....
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Dogfight..
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B17 Is my favourate. Could have been better, as the PC version had some cool features. Physics were a bit too simple for the actual flying, but as that was only part of the game it was just about acceptable. I would love to have B17 2 on the Amiga!
Dawn Patrol was OK. Not great graphics. Not played it much as I don`t own a copy. My brother does though.
Knights of the sky was my first flight sim. Loved that game. Played it way to much. Seem to remember getting around 100 kills on my first pilot. Silly, but cool intro too! I played it with 2 linked Amigas once. Not great as we lost each other straight away. I bet its great if we don`t lose each other.
Overlord was quite good, though I never actually played it that much. There was something about it which made it so I didn`t play it much. I`d love to play it now though! Doesn`t work on my system :-(
Don`t think I ever played the other 2. Not sure about Reach for the skies. Hmmmm
I have F16:Combat Pilot which was an excellent game. I have the C64 version too. Thats utter turd really, but the Amiga version was cool. VERY simple physics, but very cool. I had all my first cool flight sim related stuff happen in this game. This game could use a null MODEM cable, and isn`t that bad either.
Armourgeddon 2 was an excellent arcady flight sim. The best networkable (null) Amiga game in my opinion.
Tornado was an excellent sim. I`ve only just got it though, so it feels very old. I sooo wish i had that years ago! I`d have never done anything else. I would have had it if I had the hardware to run it. 68040 minimum.
Jetpilot was never really finished. Vulcan had plans for it, but they never happened. I have heard that they are making a modern PC version. Even though there isn`t much more than training to do, it had by far the best physics, control and probably graphics of any Amiga flight sim. I still can`t do that last mission to qualify on the English Electric Lightening!
I sooo wish (as I`ve said millions of times) that somebody would create/ port a new flight sim to the Amiga.
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TFX on a fast system.
There was a game where you could choose between a lot of different planes. It's not Dogfight, it was way better. I wish I could remember.
F16 Combat Pilot was my favorite. I used to play it on my Amstrad CPC 464+, then when I got it for my Amiga, it was even better.
F117 was cool too.
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Nick wrote:
B17 Is my favourate. Could have been better, as the PC version had some cool features. Physics were a bit too simple for the actual flying, but as that was only part of the game it was just about acceptable. I would love to have B17 2 on the Amiga!
Tornado was an excellent sim. I`ve only just got it though, so it feels very old. I sooo wish i had that years ago! I`d have never done anything else. I would have had it if I had the hardware to run it. 68040 minimum.
B17 has the nice feature that it wasn't "just a flight sim" it was a proper Bomber sim... not tried B17_2... will look out for it.
I had TornadoAGA... and ran it on my 030 50Mhz at about 5fps... got bored... too much detail, and not enough CPU time.
I really enjoyed AirBus A320... but it got boring after a while there are only so many ways you can take off, program the autopilot, and then setup the Autolanding system, Watch the computer fly from one air port to another and do the whole thing in real time...
Start game, take off... leave for 5 hours watch it land... good job!!! "Would you like to do it again?"... no thanks, I want to see what nasty crash I can think up...
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Had a friend who liked "Birds of Prey" que Fatboy Slims tune. To complex for my tastes tho.
F/A 18 was about right for my skill level, but apart from that I din't really like them.
:pint: Cheers anyway! :pint:
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What about Fighter Duel Pro? Fantastic game. It was somewhat hard to fly with the joystick I had since the pitch control was off but it was quite realistic. What more could you ask for?
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I quite fondly remember a game, not really a flight sim, in which you flew wire-framed planes (amongst which a paper plane). It was one-windowed multiplayer, and you could dogfight the others with various weapons amongst which a boing-ball :-)
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Falcon 1.0 was my favourite Amiga flight sim.
F-19 stealth fighter 2 was good as well.
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The best amiga flight sim by far was TFX, I played them all but TFX was the best, its the only Flight Sim I still play on my Amiga
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AntonioX wrote:
The best amiga flight sim by far was TFX, I played them all but TFX was the best, its the only Flight Sim I still play on my Amiga
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I thought TFX never got released?!?!
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Best flightsim of all time (http://members.home.nl/jong/Games/Biplanes/index.html)
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Hehe I forgot TFX. Good graphics yeah. Best on the Amiga, by far. VERY buggy. The F117 in that game could do some strange things at times. :-) TFX was quite simple though. I mean, I landed the F22 on an aircraft carrier (which by the way is not possible, as the F22 is land based :-)) on my first attempt. Correct me if I`m wrong, but thats no much of a challenge! I`ve got Approach Trainer, which is basically A320. Doesn`t work on any of my system for some reason. Well when it works I have to press fire on my joypad to make it advance each frame. WEIRD! I always wanted that game! Looks good. For back then at least.
I want a complicated flightsim. Doesn`t have to be modern jets. I`d love a really good WWII or 60/70s jet, flightsim. Saying that a modern day jet/helicopter one would be just as good. WWI is too simple, unless the planes are as challanging to fly as the real things. If there is no challange to a flightsim it really isn`t much of a simulation. Thats why Jetpilot is probably the best flightsim on the Amiga, even if there isn`t much game to play. The actual flying is the most realistic.
@bloodline
TFX was more thrown at the public, than released, but yeah you can get it. CU Amiga Magazine put it on one of their cover CDs.
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Nick wrote:
Hehe I forgot TFX. Good graphics yeah. Best on the Amiga, by far. VERY buggy. The F117 in that game could do some strange things at times. :-) TFX was quite simple though. I mean, I landed the F22 on an aircraft carrier (which by the way is not possible, as the F22 is land based :-)) on my first attempt. Correct me if I`m wrong, but thats no much of a challenge! I`ve got Approach Trainer, which is basically A320. Doesn`t work on any of my system for some reason. Well when it works I have to press fire on my joypad to make it advance each frame. WEIRD! I always wanted that game! Looks good. For back then at least.
I want a complicated flightsim. Doesn`t have to be modern jets. I`d love a really good WWII or 60/70s jet, flightsim. Saying that a modern day jet/helicopter one would be just as good. WWI is too simple, unless the planes are as challanging to fly as the real things. If there is no challange to a flightsim it really isn`t much of a simulation. Thats why Jetpilot is probably the best flightsim on the Amiga, even if there isn`t much game to play. The actual flying is the most realistic.
I started writing an Avro Vulcan B2 Flight sim... but never finnished it... it got too complex :-(
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Wow. I can't believe hardly anyone has mentioned F-18 Interceptor. I know it's old and doesn't quite match later flight sims for features/depth/technical prowess, but it was so damn playable!
And the first time I went outside the plane and flew under the Golden Gate Bridge was one of those "I'm really glad I bought an Amiga" moments.
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F/A-18 was the first flightsim I ever saw....I think. It was on my next door nieghbour`s A500. I borrowed it, but could only get it to work once :-(. I seem to remember it had a cardbord thing, for copy protection and it only worked once for me. Looked quite good, from what I saw (if it was F18 that is).
Somebody mentioned Bird of prey. I had that years ago on my A500+. "Good in theory", describes that game. Pretty damn turd. Loads of planes to choose from and pretty good weapons selection too. Bad control system though. Never managed to do that much in that game.
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Looks like we might be needing a top 10 best Amiga Flight sims :-D :-D
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AntonioX wrote:
Looks like we might be needing a top 10 best Amiga Flight sims :-D :-D
Biplanes is going to be number one... I defy any one to not love it!!! :lol:
Down load it for your miggy here Clickity click (http://members.home.nl/jong/Games/Biplanes/index.html)
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Depends...if you want a realistic flight sim,
Jet Pilot is the absolute best...it destroys
TFX in terms of realistic flight modeling...I
still play it often, in fact. It's a shame
Vulcan never released the update pack for
it.
@Bloodline
I'll check out Biplanes...the style looks a
bit like Wings of Fury, one of my old time
favorites. :)
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@ nomore
Birds of prey was that game. 40 planes to fly.
still one of my fav's, played all the time
Chris
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Well, he did ask for "old" flight sims, so I'd have to say Battlehawks 1942 from Lucasarts. Wow, what a great game.
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Man... I gotta side with Prmetime... Fighter Duel Pro.
Play it over the null-modem link. Great game. Good graphics, fast framerate, pretty good handling on the planes, good control.... What more is there to want.
My gripe with so many of the Amiga flight games was the framerate.... They'd play too slow on an A500, and then crash on a faster machine. :-(
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Battle of Britian: There Finest Hour, which was by Lucasarts (or was it LucasFilm Games). Loved the game and it seemed to consume many hours of my time. :-D
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If you like civil planes, there is still the Airbus A320 Vol.2. This simulation is still available on cd-rom, incl. all manuals.
Faces of Mars (http://www.facesofmars.tk)
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The bes flight sim I've played was F-19, but I assume that the planes ain't old enough... :-)
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The best flight sim is F/A-18!
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I vote for F/A-18 as #1
Falcon as #2
Loki
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Glorix wrote:
I quite fondly remember a game, not really a flight sim, in which you flew wire-framed planes (amongst which a paper plane). It was one-windowed multiplayer, and you could dogfight the others with various weapons amongst which a boing-ball :-)
Skychase.. I still have it as an one-file version on the HD of my Amigas. It's a pity that it doesn't work on much more than an 1.3 OCS machine. :-(
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I'd have to say I have 3 faves (In alphabetical order):
- Birds of Prey, offers plenty of aircraft, places to fly & is stunning on an 060 with it's light shading (I hadn't seen this before on an Amiga), day time, night time, balls for undercarridge ;-) Never liked the cockpit view, too much dashboard & not enough sky view & shame it didn't have a shadow for the aircraft.
- F/A-18 Interceptor, literally THE pick up & play flight sim, fast smooth, simple, addictive. I only wish Jet Fighter 2 (The almost follow up) had been converted to the Amiga. Never done the Sub mission but still loved it. Even flying up to the "roof" :-D
- TFX, gorgeous looking with it's colours, shades, vapour trails & flying up into & down out of the clouds feels strangley satisfying. Quite smooth on a low-mid GFX quality setting with my 060 & plays just how I like my sims. Love it using a mouse & the free look camera in the cockpit... Is ANYONE out there able to create a WHD installer for this, stablising it a touch & maybe smoothing out the frame rate as it was kinda not quite finished & probably contains a messy routine? But who am I to know?) I know there's some clever bods out there. I found a so called update for this but it wasn't any safer to use than the CUAmiga release.
To me at least, these 3 actually play quite similar, they all have that kinda pick up & play feel, even BOP in a fashion.
I miss fun sims...
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I wish there were enough people to get together to create a bloody good flight sim. I`d like to fly the planes I want. The Vulcan, YF-23, B-29, Lancaster, B-1b, B-2, A-10, B-52, Raytheon Starship 1, Beaufighter, Dornier 335....the list goes on. I want! :cry: All of these would be possible in the Microsoft sim (probably). :-(
Stupid reality!
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Well I have to admit the best for me was strike commander 'cause it had everything : fun, storyboard, nice graphic for the time. But it is on a PC. Like F16, F18 and Falcon. Did not like so much birds of prey and co cuase they dont run fast.
What I wanted to know is an easy and maybe basic flight "sim" that anybody could play (without borned with a joystick in hand) with several players eventually cpu vs cpu (i have 2 A1200).
Lio
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flight sims....yummy,..
Tornado AGA , Gunship2000 cd32 and coala!! ..
yes i know 2 of em are chopper games but i love em... and still its flight sims :)
btw to the guy who mentioned skychase... www.whdload.de has it supported, works on my a1200bppc :) , so dig out yer orginal and start playing it....nice game indeed...
also f/18 interceptor was one damn good game..
for pc... well seriously it does have some neat sims, srike commander, apache , fighterduel pro (also on amiga) ....
flight simulator 2 on amiga is cool even...old but cool....jetstrike is still the best flight game ever though (amiga) ....by rasputin....on ecs,aga and cd32 machines (3 diff versions)
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flew under the Golden Gate Bridge was one of those "I'm really glad I bought an Amiga" moments
So true ...
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The VERY first flight sim I ever played was Gunship on the C64. I loved that game. I had forgotton all about that. DOn`t asks me how, was it is on the top of my pile of Amiga games, in the corner of the room :-) I have played Gunship2000 in the past. I was a bit disspointed. Quite unrealistic in many ways. I do own Coala though. Even though when I install it I always put it under the Flight sim heading, I wouldn`t say it is a true sim. An arcade flight sim maybe.
I don`t know why I didn`t think of any of the helicopter flight sims. I don`t know why people treat helicopters as something which doesn`t come under the heading "aircraft" :-) Plane, helicopters....both capable of flight :-) So in theory they both would be flown in flight sims. :-D
@Lempkee
Hehe Jetstrike isn`t a sim. Very good, but not a sim. (though you didn`t say it was..I know :-)).