If Genesi owned the rights to Amiga IP

[sTix]

@mdma

Well, if I had lots of them I definitly would send
you one  :-D , in other words: if I were Eyetech
(although it doesn't seem like they have LOTS
of them  :-) I would, and a couple of them would
go to Genesis aswell,

Being generous is quite easy  :-D ,
but then, business is not my cup of tea  :-D

[bbrv]

It may be at the end of the day, but we will answer any questions here now or later tomorrow.

:-)

R&B

P.S. Check it out!

[Jupp3]

1. Why don't Genesi get the "Amiga Certified" licence so they can run OS4 on the Pegasos?

Much likely becouse Pegasos is sold out. Bigger question would be about Pegasos 2.

And about the license terms, do they state, that "certified machine must be sold with copy of AmigaOS4" ?

Well, as all Pegasos boards are already sold out...

Of course, it might be possible to make "Pegasos AmigaOS4 enablers" (that were sold with a copy of AmigaOS4, when ready)

P.S. Check it out!

Nice review.

[Glames]

Hi,

mahen wrote:
cato: it must depend on the places... Here in France, I know about 15/20 pegasos users, and 1 person who ordered and just received his A1.

Maybe it's different in other countries. In the USA probably ?

Just a few words to say that I know more than 7 persons who own an A1 in France and this number grows every day

[Glames]

Hi,

sTix wrote:
I'm not saying that I know that there's a lot of
A1's out there but the activity on the A1-mailingslists
is getting really high and if it will continue like the last
two weeks then my e-mail account will be flooded in
the next two weeks.

Yes I can confirm it. For example, this week-end (the last four days),  I received more than 100 msg by day

A1 is here and it is real...

[Hooligan_DCS]

The finnish Amiga users club members have about fifteen Pegasos's, and one AmigaOne I am aware of. I am not 100% sure about that one AmigaOne owner even

[Madgun68]

This does not seem excessive, the user ends up paying for it in the end anyway and if the consumer wanted a Genesi branded amiga I am sure they would pay for it.

In a marketplace where software that sells a 1,000 units is considered making a killing, a $100,000 up front license cost is quite excessive. That plus a $20 per unit license and the cost of AOS 4 itself?

If Amiga Inc. had any sort of weight to throw behind AOS, it might be different.. But I don't see any signs they're doing anything other than expecting people to come to them.

Considering the presence Genesi has had at the various shows, it would be of benefit to both Amiga Inc AND Hyperion to cut them some slack with regards to the licensing. Genesi could set up a few machines showing AOS and without doing jack all give their product greater visability. (The only comapny that wouldn't benefit from this would be Eyetech.. Genesi has no need to show off another companies hardware.)

[Argo]

"The Genesi product is not an Amiga...it is a seperate product with a seperat OS that just happens to share some capabilities of the Amiga."

So, your saying it's like a Draco....
BTW, Anyone have one of those?

[Argo]

Yeah, Wasn't Commodore planning on moving the platform to RISC?

Yeah, Wasn't Commodore planning on moving the platform to RISC

HP-PA/RISC otherwise known these days as Intel Itanium.

[zacman]

>Just a few words to say that I know more than 7
>persons who own an A1 in France and this number
>grows every day

Hm then they will reach the number of French
Genesi full time employees working on
MorphOS "soon"

[Seehund]

bbrv wrote:

Hi Seehund, maybe we will ask you to do the port! Interested? ;-)

Heh, sure, just wait a decade or two until I've at least learned to code my way out of a wet paper bag. Unless writing hardware drivers only entails hacking up some arexx or bash scripts, I think you'd be better off looking for talent in that specific area elsewhere...

Bill wanted $20/unit license fee and a $100,000 up front payment, plus a dongle and we had to do all the work!

This surely must be some mistake. I don't think I'm alone in distinctly remembering being told repeatedly that in the "Amiga licensed hardware" case, a licence would be "free" (As In Beer, gratis), and that any doubts about the existence of such a rather unique arrangement for a commercial licence were, well, the usual:  "FUD".

Might it be that the "free" bit only was valid for the former "hardware partner", which had been made redundant by failure to deliver ("A1 1200/4000") and technological and strategic evolution (third party hardware instead of new Amigas)? The "hardware partner" that was "consulted" when it came to  setting "guidelines" and "standards" required for a licence.

Ooooh, now I can even better see all those prospective licensees stumbling over their feet in order to get first in line to call their hardware "Amiga" and sell someone else's little OS bundled with a dongled version of their hardware... A true mastermind plan to get AmigaOS back on the commercial arena.

[Kronos]

@Seehund

You are confusing 2 things here.

The pices Bill mentioned were what he was told back in 01
when bPlan planned to sell MOS without Ambient.

He also said that he hasn't spoken the other Bill eversince.

[bbrv]

...actually the last time we spoke to Bill was November 2002.

That ought to tell you something!!!

:-)

OK, now forget it and get on with the rest of your life...

Have a good night,
Raquel and Bill