New Hyperion Entertainment Website http://a-eon.com/ - The Mystery Continues

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Sure but it isn't likely to be a socket 775, now is it? After all, other than intel, who uses them?

775 mounting allows using 775 fans which are so plentiful....its worth the effort

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Note: Xorro has nothing to do with Zorro. It's not what you think it is.



If you are referring to the Xilinks chip, I *think* (not sure, I am no hardware specialist) it drives the Legacy PCI slots.



Xena is no video chip. Someone suggested that but that was a wrong guess. Xena is something different... or... maybe not...



Nope. This is a CF adaptor.

Now you are playin' not playin fair. Just PM the tech specs, I will keep it a secret promise !

I'm free sunday's unlike other so called amiga fanboys....Do you like chocolate lol

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I'm at work tomorrow

Now who's in promiscuous mode ! Get down Shep !

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Well, seriously, most of it is already out there.
2x PCIe 16x (16 lanes connected, they'll scale down to 2x 8x if both are populated)
3x PCIe 1x (Xorro slot in line)
2x PCI legacy slots
4x SATA
8x USB
Onboard Audio
4x RAM socket

It can run 8 programs at 25% each, so that makes it how many cores?

As far as I can see, the only unknown factors not yet guessed are the CPU itself, Xena and Xorro...

For that... well... see you tomorrow

its the WII processor ! Ha

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As an occasaional "Scrabble" player, I hate all three. ;-)

wouldn't that be 33% of ot was a Xbox Xenon

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While I also like S/PDIF ports I don't see them as very special, even the Efika has one.

But its a Amiga S/PDIF Optical port, therefore its special, now go back to class and remember an Amiga is for life not just for Christiansmas

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We can't see this video here !!! arrghhh !
"This includes video content Vevo, who decided to hang in your country."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=podSwaNge7E

Try that one..........Still pants !!!!! I preferred not knowing personally.

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Gosh you didn't hear? The X1000 is going to be the 1st quantum computer sold to the "consumer electronics" market. But you will need to install a cat, you know, Schrödinger's Cat and all that tricky stuff. Nicknamed "feliX" by the developers.

Oh very droll, All computers, all matter to be exact has a quantum state, its how you look it then determines the outcome.

(Conventional Calculus)
* Example - How many Elephants can you get in a Mini ?, 2 in the front, 2 in the back and 1 in the trunk....  
(Deterministic Quantum Entanglement)
* Example - How many surrealists does it take to change a lightbulb ? Banana !

Phew...I thought I had lost it for a moment.........Time is up Thread No 5. What am I going to do now.......

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I'll bite,

I bet you do.

I get the impression there is some confusion that there is some sort of hardware race to catch up with.

X86 does what X86 does, there is no obligation that PPC must follow or even lead. Why does it have to be more that 1mhz / a gadzillion terrafloppies or even capable of playing anything remotely close to the Assassins Credit Card ?

The imagination and application of technology drives change not the other way round. Computer Music only came into existence because of the interference cause by the computer electronics.

Whether or not X1000 is the best thing since sliced bread depends on the user and it doesn't even need a fighting chance at out flopping the x86, the Iphone proves that and it wasn't cheap either.

Stop concentrating on the what x86 can do and imagine what the x1000 could do. Or as Bruce Lee said "Do not concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory!"

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 You should accept the fact that the Amiga still represents the level of the middle pc available in a shop.

Accept what ? Whats a Middle PC is it less that a top one, or better than a small one ? All do email rather well, browsing the net a breeze and ironically the small one, I save 20 quid a month on electricity so it pays for itself rather than having a kick ass pc with kilowatt psu processing nothing most of the time..

If people are into raw processing power then buy 4 socket Quad core Xeons, don't even waste your time with a shop pc, raw slowness and its no bigger than a laptop and you can get 10 of em in the space of a large tower.

Horses for Courses, the X1000 won't be a competitor, nor is the Popcorn hour, Sky HD receiver, nor my tv or Iphone yet suprisingly they do things the middle pc doesn't.....ironic that.

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So your saying AI/Hyperion have completely given up on being anything remotely competitive in price and performance to the alternatives? The only justification to spending something that will most likely be outlandishly expensive is to run one of the three Amiga-like OSs on?  Yes, that does sounds like they have raised the white flag and have surrendered to their fate in the tar pool.  :rolleyes:

No...Is there a need to be competitive, whats the drive force behind being competitive ? You are judging on the basis of a competition that has no drive to compete ? Are we saying AROS is a competitor ? UAE ?  Linux / Windblows. ? Whem and Wheres the competition going to start, what the criteria for success ?

What do you want to achieve should be the driving force behind buying the X1000 or not, not whether the competition has merit ?

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Problem is Atom based, extremely cheap, PCs have more CPU power and also saves on power. Of course, if you really want highier end gfx, you can spend huge sums of money, probably equal to X1000 pricing, and buy gaming laptop.



Except the above is not trying to pass itself off as a computer either.

Yes it does. In the blurb for a blade it says it runs all the latest x86 software...you mean its not in the same form factor as a PC. Ah.............this is where I really cannot abide narrow views. I have 200 staff working daily on a computer that doesn't exist, it software...vmware...the user doesn't know its a blade the user doesn't care if it is blade. They thinks the PC thats sat in front of them is running the software......nope it doesn't the blade does.

Maybe Hyperion shouldn't have shown a picture of a motherboard, thats their mistake....it should have been a Green Orb with try me written on it.  If it came the size of a postage stamp with a multitude of expansion connectors you wouldn't have compared it such but because its the size of an atx form factor for a tooling and production reasons (not for your benefit), it has to be compared to the same form factor equivelent a PC and a Mac, wow.....yea of little Atx faith.

I really don't care what factor it comes in, its nice that its ATX because I do have an awful lot of kit round here (mostly pc) that may or may not work with it but if it had come looking like a Mini-Mig would you have compared it to that or a i7 gaming rig ?

Nuff said.

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Except of course, they are not trying to pass the X1000 off as a microwave oven, they are trying to tell us this is the next generation Amiga.  I should be able to buy a ARM based netbook that has more horsepower for a fraction of the X1000's costs by the tim the X1000 is released.  The only thing that is up in the air, is when smartphones will come faster then the X1000.

Explain to me why anyone should buy a X1000 over say a comparable  netbook, either ARM or x86?  Or a  laptop that already beats the X1000, your choice.

Whats this fascination with raw horsepower its not a car. or is it ? Whats the target market for a netbook or smartphone, what target application do they need raw horsepower for. ? I have lower power low speed cpu's pc here to answer you. ? I don't write on the forum with anything else more powerful, those devices have other jobs to do. My StudioHybrid Media Center is connected to the tv to watch bluray/HD content ( I don't play games on it thats the xbox360's job), for general media I have a popcorn hour. There's a couple of linux boxes (routing and firewalls) and a vmware box for webhosting and other webby stuff where it gets left on all day. Most of the computers round here are on Wol so they don't suck power 24/7. I have a couple of dev kits wireup for experimental stuff and the new Amiga will sit nicely in that bracket for non-intel dev work and general mucking about. what do you want the X1000 to do will decide what its worth, don't u think?

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That is my point, who else but the OS4 community is going to buy it?  The higher the price, the smaller percentage of the OS4 community can/will buy it.

yes your right on that point, not until the OS4 Community write something worth having, will OS4 grow but Linux didn't have many folk either until LAMP wiped its feet.  MacOS didn't get going until DTP came through the door. Windows didn't get going until Word went GUI and DOS didn't get going until Wordstar, DB2 and Supercalc walked along. Amiga didn't get going until the graphics/sound were realised and the Lemmings dived off cliffs. The list goes on. CP/M didn't get going until MultiCalc......

A new hardware means a chance for the Killer app to be found again. Follow the other hardware and you'll be following with hand me down ported software.

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Actually it's if and how you look at it that determines the outcome.

Smart-Arse