Most powerful PPC that can be put in an A1200?

[Duce]

My SAM runs legacy games every bit as well as my MOS rig does, so take that for what it is worth.  Admittedly, I don't play many Amiga games, and when/if I do, I'm more inclined to do so on my Amithlon PC.

Note I said "programs" in my previous post.  If I was more of an Amiga gamer I'd likely just own a Minimig or FPGA Arcade.

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@duce

windows run amiga games too, under emulation like mos or sam.

[persia]

rip the guts out, install a Keyrah and and Mac Mini PPC logic board.  Install MOS.

[ChaosLord]

I'm in the process of trying to win an A1200 and I'm collecting as much info on what can actually be done as improvements.

What I recommend for improvements are:
A mouse adapter to use a brand new PS/2 laser mouse.

A keyboard adapter to use a brand new PS/2 keyboard if you get an A1200T or if you are going to put your A1200 into a tower.

Deck that baby out with a 2TB hard drive.  Or get a smaller SSD or something.  2TB is the absolute limit you can use in a single drive with AmigaOS.  Your limit may be less depending on which hard drive controller is in your A1200.  If you don't like whatever limit you have then you can buy a new HD controller, if you wanted.

A FlickerFixer.  This is awesome for me.  I donno if you would care or not.

Mediator PCI board:  All the kewl Amigans have this :razz:  This adds PCI slots to your A1200.  The board costs something like 300$ but once you have it then you get to plug in cheap PCI cards.  In mine I have a FREE Ethernet card + voodoo 1280x1024 gfx card + I am about to buy a PCI 256MB gfx card.  I use the Ethernet to network my A1200 over to its slave core i5 box.

CD Drive: Not much point but u can add one.

Four Player Adapter: This adds 2 additional joystick ports.  Cheap and works great.  Only useful if you are having Amiga parties.


I personally use my Mediator PCI slots, keyboard adapter, Lasermouse adapter, FlickerFixer and 68060 constantly and could not live without them.
My A1200 is in an Elbox Power Tower.

I also have a PS/2 KVM switch so I can share 1 19" CRT monitor + 1 mouse + 1 keyboard between my windoze box and my Amiga A1200T.  It just saves space and clutter.

[Thorham]

rip the guts out, install a Keyrah and and Mac Mini PPC logic board.  Install MOS.

What a wast of a perfectly good A1200 :mad:

[AmigaClassicRule]

rip the guts out, install a Keyrah and and Mac Mini PPC logic board. Install MOS.

I hate you -________________-

[Duce]

@duce

windows run amiga games too, under emulation like mos or sam.

Little bit different ballgame there.  Entirely different ballgame in some cases.  OS4 or MOS I can run some entirely "legacy" software sans emulator.  I have no emulator on my SAM 440ep.  *NONE*.  No 3.x ROM's even, no UAE variants.  I can fire up LW or ADPro just fine with no need for any emulator on the SAM.

Zeus BBS is the example I'll use, simply because I run it each and every single day 24/7 without the need for *ANY* emulation software.  A completely 68k application from the 1990's.  No emulation at all.  Starts in user-startup and runs just like it did on my old A1200.  No emulation layer at all.  None.  Nada.  The machine has no emulator on it like UAE other than Petunia, which I assure you doesn't do much.

I can fire up my MOS machine or my OS4 machines right now and run legacy code without an emulator layer.  Period.  No argument about it.

I cannot do that on Windows, Linux or Mac - and while I am picking nits, your allusion to the fact all legacy software must be run via emulator on a NG machine is a false statement.

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@duce

I talk about non system friendly games/demos sorry.

[Thorham]

Little bit different ballgame there.  Entirely different ballgame in some cases.  OS4 or MOS I can run some entirely "legacy" software sans emulator.  I have no emulator on my SAM 440ep.  *NONE*.  No 3.x ROM's even, no UAE variants.  I can fire up LW or ADPro just fine with no need for any emulator on the SAM.

Zeus BBS is the example I'll use, simply because I run it each and every single day 24/7 without the need for *ANY* emulation software.  A completely 68k application from the 1990's.  No emulation at all.  Starts in user-startup and runs just like it did on my old A1200.  No emulation layer at all.  None.  Nada.  The machine has no emulator on it like UAE other than Petunia, which I assure you doesn't do much.

I can fire up my MOS machine or my OS4 machines right now and run legacy code without an emulator layer.  Period.  No argument about it.

I cannot do that on Windows, Linux or Mac - and while I am picking nits, your allusion to the fact all legacy software must be run via emulator on a NG machine is a false statement.

No emulation layer... except... 680x0 EMULATION LAYER! PPC doesn't run 680x0 code without emulation. Ever. Period.

[Duce]

I have no add on emulator on my OS 4.1 powered SAM 440ep other than what came with the operating system (Petunia).  I don't play games on the machine and have no need for UAE really, so it's simply not installed, nor are 3.x or earlier ROM's.  I do not have UAE installed, nor any WB/KS 3.x ROM's on the machine at all.  An absolutely vanilla install of 4.1, void of RunInUAE and similar entirely.  Other than what the OS provides for backwards compatibility, no tacked on emulators was my point.  A far different situation than comparing it to a bone stock XP install sand emulator running Amiga software, which was the vague comparison made.

Runs the programs I mentioned just fine, feel free to holler if you'd like a video or the telnet address to logon to the BBS running on said system that indeed has no add on emulator outside of what provisions the barebones OS offers

[Thorham]

To Duce:

Ah, that's what you meant My reply referred to your use of emulation layer. Also, I was feeling grumpy

[Duce]

To Duce:

Ah, that's what you meant My reply referred to your use of emulation layer. Also, I was feeling grumpy

Hehe, no worries man, we were on the same page, just picking different nits.

Cheers!

[mradam83]

What I recommend for improvements are:
A mouse adapter to use a brand new PS/2 laser mouse.

A keyboard adapter to use a brand new PS/2 keyboard if you get an A1200T or if you are going to put your A1200 into a tower.

Deck that baby out with a 2TB hard drive.  Or get a smaller SSD or something.  2TB is the absolute limit you can use in a single drive with AmigaOS.  Your limit may be less depending on which hard drive controller is in your A1200.  If you don't like whatever limit you have then you can buy a new HD controller, if you wanted.

A FlickerFixer.  This is awesome for me.  I donno if you would care or not.

Mediator PCI board:  All the kewl Amigans have this :razz:  This adds PCI slots to your A1200.  The board costs something like 300$ but once you have it then you get to plug in cheap PCI cards.  In mine I have a FREE Ethernet card + voodoo 1280x1024 gfx card + I am about to buy a PCI 256MB gfx card.  I use the Ethernet to network my A1200 over to its slave core i5 box.

CD Drive: Not much point but u can add one.

Four Player Adapter: This adds 2 additional joystick ports.  Cheap and works great.  Only useful if you are having Amiga parties.


I personally use my Mediator PCI slots, keyboard adapter, Lasermouse adapter, FlickerFixer and 68060 constantly and could not live without them.
My A1200 is in an Elbox Power Tower.

I also have a PS/2 KVM switch so I can share 1 19" CRT monitor + 1 mouse + 1 keyboard between my windoze box and my Amiga A1200T.  It just saves space and clutter.

Ah excellent, these were questions I was likely going to ask at some point - a 2tb hard drive in an Amiga 1200?! Wow that must be some sight to see...

[mradam83]

Of course this whole thread is now null and void because some t*** outbid me at the last minute.

[psxphill]

A far different situation than comparing it to a bone stock XP install sand emulator running Amiga software, which was the vague comparison made.

Whether it's installed by default is not the difference, the integration with the OS so the Apps appear to be native is the difference.
 
Janus-UAE on AROS is different, but looks similar. Nobody seems to care about it on Windows.

[danbeaver]

Myself, I never saw the point of maxing out an A1200, i.e., Mediator, PPC, 256 MB RAM, 2 TB HDD, USB, Towers to put all that stuff in, and the list goes on.  One (not you, necessarily) could get an A4000(T) with same chipset and end up spending around the same amount of money.  They were made for upgrading.

OS 4.1 is not meant for everyone, certainly not for gamers or Retro enthusiasts.  It is a modern OS with strong underpinnings of Unix/Linux.  It has elements (Python for example) that modern OS's use.  It does behave like the original Amiga OS's but is predicated on a PPC.  It hogs RAM (common to current OS's), but has a beautiful display, very nice modern enhancements, and has become my main OS on my Classic Amiga.  I know it runs better on the NG Amiga's, and if I ever get together enough cash (or sell one of my "maxed" A4000T's) I would get an x1000.  In fact having a PPC accelerator you picked up years ago and really never used, IS a good reason to run OS 4.1 but only if you really, really want to.

How many Psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb, only one but the light bulb has to WANT to change.:laugh1: