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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: motrucker on May 31, 2015, 07:19:22 PM
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I just read this over at Lemon64. There is a project afoot to create an inexpensive 16Mb REU for the Commodore C-64. Jens at Individual Computers (http://icomp.de) is looking to see how many people might be interested. If you are interested, E-Mail him at: shop@icomp.de (shop@icomp.de) and let him know.
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What would a C64 do with all that RAM?
Serious question, actually - I'm not trying to be difficult. :)
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I have seen some one play a video from it. It was the Intro. to the TV show Dallas.
It looked good.
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What would a C64 do with all that RAM?
Serious question, actually - I'm not trying to be difficult. :)
And a good one.
64K address space tied to 16mb of memory.
What kind of mmu would be required for that?
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I really dont see the point for such a product these days.
You already have the awesome all-in-one 1541 Ultimate, with 16MB REU, which you can load into directly from sdcard/USB.
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How about finishing the Indivsion MK2 AGA config tool? Even setting up an RTG card is easier.
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I wonder if it will be compatible with GEOS/Wheels which made use of 16MB CMD RAMLinks.
FCUG celebrating 33 years,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
July 18-19 Commodore Vegas Expo v11 2015 -
http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
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I have a Commodore 64c and can I say this: NO! I AM NOT INTERESTED! No thank you!
If the project is a cheap, super cheap SuperCPU with 16 MB and build in disk drive so you can play this ONE game on real C64c....I will still say no.
We have Vampire 600/500 and that is all what need now.
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I wonder if it will be compatible with GEOS/Wheels which made use of 16MB CMD RAMLinks.
FCUG celebrating 33 years,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
July 18-19 Commodore Vegas Expo v11 2015 -
http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
I sure didn't expect such negative responses. But you have one use for it: GEOS. There are quite a lot of programs that can access an REU. I still use GEOS, with a 2Mb REU, and there are time when I wish I had more memory.
I thought there would be more 8 bit user still around here.
This project is being posted on several boards, so chances are good it will happen. Maybe the C064 is more popular in Europe than here.
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I sure didn't expect such negative responses.
It's an Amiga forum. Of course people need to be negative and bash any new hardware that is suggested! :lol:
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I think Jens prefers doing C64 projects. Amiga might be his second favourite system. (Much more complicated)
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What would a C64 do with all that RAM?
Serious question, actually - I'm not trying to be difficult. :)
That is nice but I doubt the C-64 can see all of that memory at once.
What would you do with all of that ram? Suppose you had thousands of sprites in memory and just changed where memory points to or suppose you changed the tile background memory plane. You could have many screens for video games. You could change sprites over and over again.
I don't know that the Kernal is that stable to switch back and forth between banks because there was a program called Triple 64 and you couldn't switch back and forth between memory banks and multitask with different programs running because the kernel would get confused. You would definitely have to change the source code to the Commodore 64 to allow more tricks with memory and then it might not be compatible with older programs.
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If it can be battery-backed and bootable on demand, that would make GEOS pretty nice. Other than that, I would prefer a SuperCPU-like expansion.
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If it can be battery-backed and bootable on demand, that would make GEOS pretty nice. Other than that, I would prefer a SuperCPU-like expansion.
There already is a SuperCPU like expansion made by Jens with REU, SD-1541 emulation, VGA output and MUCH more..... I have one and they work very well. It is the Turbo Chameleon.
This is for people that dont want/afford the Turbo Chameleon and want a REU like the CBM units but maxed with out RAM. If it is the same REU code used in the Chameleon then it should work very well.
One of the nice things about the REU for the C64 was the DMA engine the REU had to move data in and out of the REU VERY fast... Almost like a blitter in some ways. Of course GEOS and other items make good use of it as well.
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Perfect time for a movie quote:
"Laslo: I figure you’ve increased the power output to six megawatts?
Chris: Yeah, about that.
Laslo: Well what would you use that for?
Ick: Making enormous Swiss cheese?"
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What would a C64 do with all that RAM?
Serious question, actually - I'm not trying to be difficult. :)
Probably burn up the power supply because it is to small for that amount of memory.
smerf
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There already is a SuperCPU like expansion made by Jens with REU, SD-1541 emulation, VGA output and MUCH more..... I have one and they work very well. It is the Turbo Chameleon.
This is for people that dont want/afford the Turbo Chameleon and want a REU like the CBM units but maxed with out RAM. If it is the same REU code used in the Chameleon then it should work very well.
One of the nice things about the REU for the C64 was the DMA engine the REU had to move data in and out of the REU VERY fast... Almost like a blitter in some ways. Of course GEOS and other items make good use of it as well.
Interesting... with one of those, who needs a C64?
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Funny you say that...
The Turbo Chameleon not only runs C64 in standalone mode (i.e... no c64 "dongle") but also other FPGA cores like Minimig and the C64 acts as KB (there is also a PS2 KB and Mouse plug).
You can read more about it here... http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/Chameleon
I really think it is a great product for CBM enthusiasts that like c64 and Amiga.
I just think it is funny when people wish there was a faster CPU solution for the C64... and there is a new device.. but then they don't buy it.
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That is nice but I doubt the C-64 can see all of that memory at once.
With a 16MB CMD RAMLink, Wheels 64 for the C64 and Wheels 128 for the C128will see all that memory.
Thousands and thousands of blocks free,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
July 18-19 Commodore Vegas Expo v11 2015 -
http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
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I would like one of these! Posted on another forum and sent an email, still luv my c64... and my Amiga's of course :)
Az
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Funny you say that...
The Turbo Chameleon not only runs C64 in standalone mode (i.e... no c64 "dongle") but also other FPGA cores like Minimig and the C64 acts as KB (there is also a PS2 KB and Mouse plug).
You can read more about it here... http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/Chameleon
I really think it is a great product for CBM enthusiasts that like c64 and Amiga.
I just think it is funny when people wish there was a faster CPU solution for the C64... and there is a new device.. but then they don't buy it.
I'm holding out only because I really want to get hold of a C64 reloaded :) ....THEN a nice chameleon 64 :laugh1:
That and I need a couple serial cables and a new SID chip for the one Rev B still working.
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You could run Linux on it.
Lunix:
http://lng.sourceforge.net/ (http://lng.sourceforge.net/)
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With a 16MB CMD RAMLink, Wheels 64 for the C64 and Wheels 128 for the C128will see all that memory.
http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
The things is, this REU is a new project, and is supposed to be less expensive than the Turbo Chameleon. https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/Turbo_Chameleon_64.html This is the Chamelion's price, the REU is supposed to be much less.