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Offline walkero

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #14 from previous page: April 02, 2010, 04:56:48 PM »
@artur
I'm trying the test version right now. I have the idle and idlewos running, but I don't see any usage of the ppc when i see websites with this "Power" version. I'm doing something wrong?
 

Offline apjTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2010, 07:00:06 PM »
@walkero
Maybe use of word Power was bad idea.
By Power I meant fast Amiga like with 060 and RTG.

BTW: Do you notice any speedup comparing to version 1.6?

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2010, 07:58:37 PM »
Quote from: bernd_afa;550364
netsurf team have add the diskcache for netsurf


Actually it's a new memory cache.  Although it has been designed so disk caching can be added, at the moment there isn't any.

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But its a Version 2.5 and AOS 68k use 3.0 which have a diffrent plotterinterface.So there need also wait if netsurf devs add the cache to 3.0.

They do enhance 2.5 because nobody change the plotter interface currently so risc OS does not work well with 3.0.


3.0 and 2.5 are the same thing (2.5 is the release version of what is currently known as 3.0).  The plotters were changed some time back (but after 2.1), and I suspect your 68k-3.0 is already using them - given it was just a simplification.

The problem with RISC OS is the new treeview code, not the plotters.  However, I understand that the RISC OS version has been mostly fixed to work with this now.

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maybe the new cache and less ram usage speed up netsurf more


Yes it does, certainly for NetSurf OS4.  However, it has also introduced a few issues which need to be fixed before it is really usable to the same level as the old version.

Chris
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Offline walkero

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2010, 09:25:17 PM »
@artur
Oh, I thought that you used the word "Power" as a "PPC version". Sorry for that.
But yes. I think it is a little bit faster on my 040/25. And stable too. I also saw a new pointer... That looked good too. Keep up the good work....
 

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2010, 04:21:56 AM »
@Artur
 
There's a considerable speedup on my system (a4000 060/50).
 
Amigaworld.net full page load takes 13 sec. (was 18 sec. with 1.6).
Amiga.org takes 22 sec (was 32 sec with 1.6).
 
I use a 800x600 window and I noticed the layout of amiga.org wasn't correct with the new version. When I changed the window size to 1024x768 the layout was
correct, but full page load took a few seconds longer.
 
Edit: Almost forgot : Thanks Artur !!!
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Offline Tumbleweed

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2010, 07:52:41 AM »
@Artur
@Mozzerfan

This new version is much faster

http://www.yahoo.co.uk Netsurf 1.6 73.9s new version 34.3s

I get similar speeds for Amiga.org and Amigaworld.net as MozzerFan.

Memory usage is also much better using http://www.youtube.com.

Keep up the good work Artur!

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2010, 04:10:38 AM »
The strangest thing happened when I installed Netsurf on WinUae.  After extracting all files and setting things up, it loads up netsurf.  Then if I close down netsurf and try to reload it, nothing happens.  I rebooted Winuae and tried to load Netsurf and nothing happens.  However, I made a new partion and put netsurf in it and it loads!  BUT it will only load one time like in the other case I just described.  What am I doing wrong?
 

Offline apjTopic starter

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2010, 01:11:46 PM »
Try running some file tracer like SnoopDos if some files are not found.

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2010, 07:37:41 PM »
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17.h0:wbstartup> h1:NetSurf
>The strangest thing happened when I installed Netsurf on WinUae. After extracting all >files and setting things up, it loads up netsurf. Then if I close down netsurf and try to >reload it, nothing happens

after some surf, i get same Problem.I start then netsurf from shell with option -v.it dos not find the fonts.I have the fonts in netsurf dir.very strange

17.h1:NetSurf> netsurf -v
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 102: version '3.0 (Development)'
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 109: NetSurf on , node , release , version <45.57>, machine
 
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 111: Using '/h1/NetSurf/Resources/Options' for Options file
desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_init 114: Using '/h1/NetSurf/Resources/en/messages' as Messages file
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_register 154: curl_version libcurl/7.19.5 OpenSSL/0.9.7m zlib/1.2.4
utils/useragent.c user_agent_build_string 72: Built user agent "NetSurf/3.0 (AmigaOS; m68k)"
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_register 211: cURL linked against openssl
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for tftp
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for ftp
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for telnet
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for dict
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for http
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for file
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for https
content/fetchers/fetch_curl.c fetch_curl_initialise 243: Initialise cURL fetcher for ftps
content/fetchers/fetch_data.c fetch_data_initialise 65: fetch_data_initialise called for data
framebuffer/gui.c gui_init 401: Using '/h1/NetSurf/Resources/Aliases' as Aliases file
framebuffer/gui.c gui_init 410: Using 'file:////h1/NetSurf/Resources/default.css' as Default CSS URL
framebuffer/gui.c process_cmdline 342: argc 1, argv 0x11082028
framebuffer/font_freetype.c ft_face_requester 84: Could not find font (code 2)

framebuffer/font_freetype.c ft_face_requester 99: Loaded face from

framebuffer/font_freetype.c fb_new_face 124: Could not find font face PROGDIR:Fonts/DejaVuSans.ttf (code 2)

framebuffer/font_freetype.c fb_font_init 172: Could not find default font (code 0)

17.h1:NetSurf>
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2010, 10:13:25 AM »
up till now im measuring 10% speedup between v 1.6 and 1.7, with a local copy of bild.de, no heavy testing due to no stationary www connection on at this time.
 

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2010, 02:00:05 AM »
@bernd_afa

I am having the same problem.  Have you found a fix?  It's a shame because I think 1.6 is really a great looking web browser for the 68k Amiga (even though I am using it on Winuae).

All we need is some form a Javascript and no more PC web browsing :)


- Can we move this thread so that it shows up in the recently viewed threads?  Maybe others have experienced the same problem and have discovered a fix?
Thanks.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 02:03:31 AM by Miked »
 

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Re: NetSurf 1.6 for AmigaOS 3.x
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2010, 03:03:14 PM »
> Maybe >others have experienced the same problem and have discovered a fix?

I find out the Problem is netsurf write something in the Option File.

this are the last lines

fb_input_devpath:
fb_input_glob:
fb_font_monochrome:0

after a V1.7beta start it write this in options file.

fb_face_sans_serif:
fb_face_sans_serif_bold:
fb_face_sans_serif_italic:
fb_face_sans_serif_italic_bold:
fb_face_monospace:
fb_face_serif:
fb_serif_bold:              

when other not get this problems, i think copy the dejavue fonts to fonts dir help, or add valid font entries to netsurf fonts.

but maybe thats fix in newer versions, the last netsurf with new cache is experimental and maybe at middle or end of April there is better version here.

>with a local copy of bild.de, no heavy testing due to no stationary www connection on at >this time.

with local files i guess the cache that reduce internet access cant speedup much.
but i never get it working that netsurf show local pages without internet access.When i switch off my connection, then netsurf hang
« Last Edit: April 10, 2010, 03:06:38 PM by bernd_afa »