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Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« on: October 23, 2010, 08:00:02 PM »
As stated at AmiWest 2010, they still have no interest in x86.

I suppose selling a handful outdated slow overpriced computers somehow makes them more money than selling good software that runs on fast commodity hardware.

Greed > user experience.

Unbelievable.
 

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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 08:03:09 PM »
They are just waiting for Quantum Computers.

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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 08:11:12 PM »
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As stated at AmiWest 2010, they still have no interest in x86.

I suppose selling a handful outdated slow overpriced computers somehow makes them more money than selling good software that runs on fast commodity hardware.

Greed > user experience.

Unbelievable.


Unbelievable? Not really.

Ben Hermans is nothing if not consistent.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 08:12:14 PM »
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As stated at AmiWest 2010, they still have no interest in x86.
 
I suppose selling a handful outdated slow overpriced computers somehow makes them more money than selling good software that runs on fast commodity hardware.
 
Greed > user experience.
 
Unbelievable.

Well they are never going to make a profit if they keep on going with their ideas and not using everyday hardware.
No profit = bankrupt
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 08:12:29 PM »
The day Amiga goes x86 is the day I retire from the scene.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 08:17:37 PM »
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No profit = bankrupt


Hyperion so far as I can tell has been a hobby company pretty much since they pushed to get the OS4 development licence.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 08:20:59 PM »
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The day Amiga goes x86 is the day I retire from the scene.


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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 08:25:20 PM »
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Hyperion so far as I can tell has been a hobby company pretty much since they pushed to get the OS4 development licence.

Same thing, unless someone is funding them, they won't survive if no one buys the machines.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2010, 08:29:37 PM »
I am really doubting that their primary revenue stream is the X1000.

To be honest though, are there any actual interest in amiga OS4 for x86 ?
What is to be gained from competing in a tiny tiny tiny market that AROS has a massive headstart on ?
 

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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2010, 08:31:36 PM »
By the same token, why compete against them and have to develop hardware as well?
 

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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2010, 08:34:21 PM »
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By the same token, why compete against them and have to develop hardware as well?


So far, Acube has developed the hardware and they've just supplied the OS, so no loss there. OS development is not an easy job, but it doesn't require a factory anywhere.

From the interviews with the guy in charge of Hyperion, it seems that the X1000 is very much a vanity project, that he is hoping to break even on.
 

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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2010, 08:37:51 PM »
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From the interviews with the guy in charge of Hyperion, it seems that the X1000 is very much a vanity project, that he is hoping to break even on.

That would be Trevor Dickinson, one of the A-eon partners, not Hyperion.

Well, their(Hyperion, Hermans) stand against x86 is well known for years. I guess admitting defeat may be too much for some egos. Maybe ARM, but that is still a distant future (possibility?) for high-performance desktops.
 

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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2010, 08:37:56 PM »
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Same thing, unless someone is funding them, they won't survive if no one buys the machines.


The point I was getting at was that they're not a company in the strictest sense of the word. There is nothing to go bankrupt so far as I can tell because everything is done by third parties. The only employee I'm aware of is Hermans himself. Even the Friedens are independent of the company as was shown in legal wrangling over the ExecSG kernel.

Any normal for profit organisation would have folded long before now or moved onto other markets. Hyperion are as much a shell as Amiga.Inc was/is.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2010, 08:40:12 PM »
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From the interviews with the guy in charge of Hyperion, it seems that the X1000 is very much a vanity project, that he is hoping to break even on.


I have a lot more respect for that point of view.

If you are really passionate about it and not just trying to monopolize the market into a corner, that's great.

I just wish Aros had the apparent control of the Amiga market that Hyperion seems to have.  That project fits my views of the future much better.
 

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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2010, 08:40:23 PM »
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So far, Acube has developed the hardware


I thought that Sam was an off the shelf board for the embedded sector that just happened to be available? Or am I thinking of something else here?


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From the interviews with the guy in charge of Hyperion, it seems that the X1000 is very much a vanity project, that he is hoping to break even on.


Yeah pretty much.
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