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Title: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 06, 2008, 04:51:15 PM
Problem solved my error was installing old ver on top of new boot.img
edit:

Any work around this?Efika:

Download MorphOS-2.1-efikainstall.img and put it in the root directory of a USB mass storage device.
Insert the USB device into a USB port on the Efika.
In order to have access to a mouse and keyboard while you are installing from a USB device, we suggest you use a USB hub to connect these input devices.
Turn on your Efika.
Press escape on the keyboard until you reach the Open Firmware prompt.
At the Open Firmware prompt, type:
> boot scsi:0 MorphOS-2.0-efikainstall.img
MorphOS will now start booting. Please be patient. This may take a short while. Once it is done booting, click on the iWizard icon and start the download of the full MorphOS ISO..
Please note that the default ISO download directory is ram: - however the ISO will not fit there. Therefore, you must manually adjust the download path to match the partition you are installing MorphOS to.

are we to type MorphOS-2.0 or 2.1?
I may have messed up!

if not then how does 2.1 come into play?

some how dead in the water and can't boot any help?


Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: Piru on September 06, 2008, 05:07:17 PM
Clearly the 2.0 there is a mistake (I mean if you just downloaded the MorphOS-2.1-efikainstall.img and put it on the media, how could you boot MorphOS-2.0-efikainstall.img from it?).

Anyhow, the mistake is unfortunate. Apologies for that.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 06, 2008, 05:29:25 PM
I mean i knew that and started it that way, but the usb kept dropping so couldn't install, i downloaded it from sputnik then tried accessing it there, but when i got to the dl opt i didn't know what to do there so i tried to back out, and that's when all hell broke loose! now i cant boot, cant reinstall (keeps dropping usb) and installboot works but no usb. i think its reading the formatted drives and then dropping the firmware usb.

now im thinking trhat i have to reformat huh? and if so how from firmware?
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: soviet on September 06, 2008, 06:05:43 PM
I have issues whit this also.
After boot hd0:0 efika.img ( i rename the file to get less typing)
i get the message Quark etc ..
then black screen.
i tried 3 times.
 :madashell:
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: TheMagicM on September 06, 2008, 06:25:13 PM
I dont know how someone can mess up typing the following at a OF prompt:

boot scsi:0 morphos-2.1-efikainstall.img


I did that and it started loading..about a minute later I'm at the iWizard and installing 2.1.  works here :-?
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: TheMagicM on September 06, 2008, 06:28:30 PM
soviet:

what do you mean boot hd0:0 efika.img ???

are you trying to install 2.1????? doesnt look like it by what you typed.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 06, 2008, 06:39:54 PM
Quote

TheMagicM wrote:
I dont know how someone can mess up typing the following at a OF prompt:

boot scsi:0 morphos-2.1-efikainstall.img


I did that and it started loading..about a minute later I'm at the iWizard and installing 2.1.  works here :-?


NOT IN THE MOOD DUDE THE THREAD SAID USB KEEPS DROPPING!!!
WITHOUYT THAT, YOU CANT GO ON
IM HAVING OTHER ISSUES READ THE ENTIRE THREAT B4 POSTING

@soviet
you said that you renamed, but you need boot hd:0 not hd0:0 i think
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: Painkiller on September 06, 2008, 06:50:45 PM
Have you tried a different USB-stick? Maybe a different USB hub? At work we are having loads of problems with USB hubs, some of them just doesn't work correctly. I had some troubles with OF recognizing my USB-stick, but eventually it started to work, don't know why I had the problems.

Second thing that gave me problems was my USB to PS2 k/m adapter. It just didn't work with MOS it hang on boot everytime.

Hmm btw I have to check if this problem is corrected with MOS 2.1
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: TheMagicM on September 06, 2008, 06:51:34 PM
zyphoid:
OK, JUST WONDERING, MAYBE YOU ARE HAVING OTHER ISSUES, "DUDE".
Pipe down on the all caps kid.


painkiller:
your idea is plausible.. i was thinking hardware issue also, assuming the problem wasnt user related.





Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: gazgod on September 06, 2008, 07:01:28 PM
Ok typing this from Sputnik running on efika with Mos 2.1 :)

I too had an issue with usb dropping keyboard on the open firmware but i put this down to usb to ps2 converter i was using,
I dragged out a usb keyboard and mouse and the install worked flawlessly :)

@zyphoid

Are you using normal usb keyboard and mouse or any type of converter?

BTW My USB to ps2 adapter works perfectly once 2.1 is installed :)

Gaz
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: Fab12 on September 06, 2008, 07:09:19 PM
If you got a drop in OF itself, then it's not related to MorphOS at all. :)
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 06, 2008, 07:21:51 PM
@fab
the drop comes at ambient screen prior or during wizard
all my drives boot then(icons) but like i said they don't boot during openfirmware, it hangs on the op prompt after the 5-1 countdown, or ent key.  early menu cant be accessed either.

virtually i'm stuck!!

theusb was the one i initally used but i'll try another
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: yakumo9275 on September 06, 2008, 07:41:25 PM
I installed 2.1 over 2.0 without any probs. I put the boot image and the iso on the same usb stick. I have a $4 walmart usb hub (unpowered) and plug my logitech g15 keyboard + g5 mouse, hun in top usb connection, stick in bottom usb connection.

boots up, installs no problem.

I boot it up via the ethernet since the usb is SOOOOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW to boot the image.

yay for tftp on my linux box.


Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 06, 2008, 08:17:26 PM
Quote

Painkiller wrote:
Have you tried a different USB-stick? Maybe a different USB hub? At work we are having loads of problems with USB hubs, some of them just doesn't work correctly. I had some troubles with OF recognizing my USB-stick, but eventually it started to work, don't know why I had the problems.
Hmm btw I have to check if this problem is corrected with MOS 2.1


@Painkiller  ;-)  :-D
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: Ianoakley on September 06, 2008, 08:19:31 PM
I'm having similar problems and I don't think it's down to typing !!

My usb stick is connected directly into the Efika and all other peripherals are connected to a hub.

I will be trying other usb sticks in an attempt to resolve this issue.

I assume when it states download the image to the root directory all that involves is copying the file directly to the usb stick.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: TheMagicM on September 06, 2008, 08:23:51 PM
@lanoakley:

yes, you have to copy the file to a USB stick.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 06, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
tried new stick  got iwiz going and it always stops installation at 4459files copied with an error. this just plain stinks

edit: again installing wrong ver of os. my bad!!
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: Firedawg on September 07, 2008, 12:51:17 AM
My update to MOS2.1 went without a problem. But, I do feel for  those here who are having issues.  Here below I have quoted myself from a thread earlier when MOS2.0 first came out and I still believe it is playing a part with many of the USB issues that I'm hearing.

"Now something to think about, I had some problems with stick and hub orientation as it pertained to usb ports on the Efika, where I had the hub plug into the top usb port and the stick plug into the bottom and I was getting system freeze ups at various stopping points during the firmware boot up. I swapped them around and was successful.

Another possible problem some have been having with keyboard and mouse being plugged into the usb hub, make sure your mouse is plugged in after the keyboard, meaning if it is a 4 port usb hub plug keyboard hub port 1, then mouse hub port 2."

Mike

 
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: TheMagicM on September 07, 2008, 01:13:31 AM
I have a wireless kb + mouse combo which takes up 1 usb slot, then I'm using a 8gig USB stick, no hub.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 07, 2008, 01:24:19 AM
had no probs with 2.0,
cant figure this out :-? lost the entire day already
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: Firedawg on September 07, 2008, 02:12:44 AM
Quote

TheMagicM wrote:
I have a wireless kb + mouse combo which takes up 1 usb slot, then I'm using a 8gig USB stick, no hub.


I believe keeping a hub out of the equation helps to avoid these freezes and lost of keyboard and mouse problems.  Working straight from the Efika's USB ports without the Hub is the way to go.  
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: TheMagicM on September 07, 2008, 05:09:49 AM
yea I agree.



@zyphoid:
I havent tried this just yet so I dont know if it will work.  

Plug in your USB kb in one USB slot on the EFIKA, plug in the USB stick in the other.
hit ESC to get to an OF prompt.
type in the usual stuff to boot the install image.
As soon as you hit enter, remove the USB keyboard and plug in the USB mouse.
I dont believe I typed in ANYTHING after I got to iWizard, just point and click through it.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: DamageX on September 07, 2008, 07:58:25 AM
When it comes down to it, you don't even need the mouse. You can control the mouse pointer using the keyboard like on a classic Amiga.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: TheMagicM on September 07, 2008, 03:39:54 PM
cool, I didnt know that...  I think zyphoid has some good tips..hopefully this gets it working for him.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 07, 2008, 05:32:22 PM
@TheMagicM
actually i have the same setup as you in regards to key/mouse combo... and at times i had to use the keyboard to cross a file from drive to drive due to it dropping only the mouse! yea i thought that was strange.
anyway not to offend the usb package author... i'll refrain from saying anything about that.  instead reformatting the boot partition in hopes of starting on fresh drive.  I copied files to the non boot part dh:1, and tried installing from there, but even doing that initially ended with an error after 4459 files copied, which is right at the end, but enough to mess up the process from being complete or booting. I get the feeling after all that i've put into getting it set up, that i'm now not going to enjoy the update from lack of being installed.  l8r guys at 92% after 2.5 hrs cya!  :getmad:
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 07, 2008, 06:46:46 PM
What are the odd? yep everything was going as it should
1. files freshly dl to usb stick inserted into efika
2. turned it on esc. boot scsi:0 morphos-2.1-efikainstall.img
3. booted without dropping usb(changed stick)
4. began install on iwiz
5. next all the way to prompt on morph2.0 file edit:<---that was the problem 2.0 should be 2.1!!!!!!!!
6. selected freshly formatted sfs dh0: partition
7. again install stopped at 4459 files!!!


 :getmad: anyway i had the files also on the drive, so i dragged them over to the boot drive.

it boots, but how can i confirm i have the update?

edit: my guess is no, us*(not to offend) hung and no song on an mp3.
I'm happy for everyone else :roll:
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: warpdesign on September 07, 2008, 07:11:37 PM
Quote

7. again install stopped at 4459 files!!!


Maybe it's because of the 30 minutes timeout of the demo is being reached ?
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 07, 2008, 07:46:01 PM
@warpdesign

no it had much time left, besides i think the time out pops up, but allows you to finish

Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: amigadave on September 13, 2008, 05:04:57 AM
My Efika and HIS Radeon9250 128mb graphics card both arrived today, hurray!

I don't own a single USB storage device, BOO!

I thought for a minute that I could use my iPod as a USB storage device, so I plugged it into my Windows PC, because that is where I had downloaded the morphOS2.1_efikainstall.img file.  What a mistake!!! My XP Pro PC almost locked up completely for several minutes, then finally asked me if I wanted to completely reformat my iPod for use on the PC.  I hit cancel and struggled for another 15 minutes to get Windows to give me the okay to remove hardware message.  My iPod never did give me the okay and after a half hour I unplugged the iPod anyway and it is locked up on the "Do Not Disconnect" screen, so I have probably screwed my 80GB video iPod, Arrrrrrggghhhhhhh!

Back to the Efika:  Is there no other way to install MorphOS2.1 on to my Efika?  I have a USB to 44pin IDE adapter, will that work?  I think I will go try by attaching a 4GB laptop drive to it and transferring the MorphOS2.1 file to that and then plug the adapter into the Efika.  Wish me luck.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: kolla on September 13, 2008, 07:53:28 AM
4459 files?
Isn't that an awfull lot for a lean and mean system? :-)
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: DamageX on September 13, 2008, 09:48:39 AM
Quote
Back to the Efika: Is there no other way to install MorphOS2.1 on to my Efika? I have a USB to 44pin IDE adapter, will that work? I think I will go try by attaching a 4GB laptop drive to it and transferring the MorphOS2.1 file to that and then plug the adapter into the Efika. Wish me luck.

The harddrive that you install MorphOS on needs to have RDB and FFS/SFS instead of PC-style MBR/FAT/etc. That makes it complicated. But maybe...

1) put the boot image (the ~12MB file) on the HDD using PC
2) attach it to the Efika and boot
3) copy the contents of the boot image to RAM
4) repartition the harddrive
5) copy the stuff from RAM back to harddrive
6) run the wizard, download the full installation archive, finish the install

It might work if you could do it all within 30min.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: amigadave on September 13, 2008, 09:57:27 AM
Quote

DamageX wrote:
Quote
Back to the Efika: Is there no other way to install MorphOS2.1 on to my Efika? I have a USB to 44pin IDE adapter, will that work? I think I will go try by attaching a 4GB laptop drive to it and transferring the MorphOS2.1 file to that and then plug the adapter into the Efika. Wish me luck.

The harddrive that you install MorphOS on needs to have RDB and FFS/SFS instead of PC-style MBR/FAT/etc. That makes it complicated. But maybe...

1) put the boot image (the ~12MB file) on the HDD using PC
2) attach it to the Efika and boot
3) copy the contents of the boot image to RAM
4) repartition the harddrive
5) copy the stuff from RAM back to harddrive
6) run the wizard, download the full installation archive, finish the install

It might work if you could do it all within 30min.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Your joking, right?

It timed out way before I could even download the .iso, so...... I'll try this:

1) put the boot image and 2.1 iso file on the HDD using PC
2) attach it to the Efika and boot
3) RUN the iWizard
4) Since the partitioning is already done, finish the install

Took some time, but it sure was nice seeing that Efika booting on my 37" LCD TV, gorgeous!

Edit: The 4gb hdd attached to the usb adapter is not the hdd I am using inside the Efika, it is an extra.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: amigadave on September 13, 2008, 10:07:17 AM
Well, that plan did not work.  I can't find where to download the iso image of MOS2.1.  The only files you can download from the team MOS site is the ~12mb install image file.

Does anyone know where or how I can download the MOS2.1.iso image from my PC, not from the time limited MorphOS2.1 install process which times out before I can complete the download?

Thanks!
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: Golem!dk on September 13, 2008, 10:38:56 AM
Grab the pegasos iso, it's the same the efika installer downloads.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: amigadave on September 13, 2008, 01:36:20 PM
Quote

Golem!dk wrote:
Grab the pegasos iso, it's the same the efika installer downloads.


Thanks for the advice, but I could not find any .iso downloads.

I did get MorphOS2.1 installed and running and I am typing this from my Efika!

Sputnik isn't Firefox, but it works.

All I need to do now is find where it tells me how to adjust the boot.img so I don't have to type boot at each cold start.

text is not wrapping in this window, I hope it wraps when I post this message.

Anyway, I have stayed up all night to get this running and play with it, so I am off to get some sleep.
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: gazgod on September 13, 2008, 02:27:18 PM
In the open firmware type the following commands to set up auto booting :-

setenv boot-file boot.img 3D ramdebug
setenv boot-device hd:0 (if first partition)
setenv auto-boot-timeout 3000
setenv auto-boot? true

Gaz
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: zyphoid on September 13, 2008, 02:33:17 PM
yea welcome to the wonderful world of morphos 2.1!!
head on over to this link http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5955&forum=16

for compatibility with programs!!

Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: amigadave on September 14, 2008, 12:53:37 AM
Quote

gazgod wrote:
In the open firmware type the following commands to set up auto booting :-

setenv boot-file boot.img 3D ramdebug
setenv boot-device hd:0 (if first partition)
setenv auto-boot-timeout 3000
setenv auto-boot? true

Gaz


Thanks Gaz,

I have recovered from my "all nighter" with the Efika and MOS2.1 and back for more.

MOS2.1 looks much better on my 20" Dell widescreen LCD than it did on my 37" LCD TV, but I don't know why.

Is there a way to install better fonts for sputnik?  I already clicked on the download and install fonts icon in the sputnik drawer, but the fonts still look bad when browsing A.org.

I am also testing an IDE CD-ROM drive connected to a USB-to-IDE adapter, but have not gotten MorphOS to see it yet.

 :-D
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: arnljot on September 20, 2008, 12:02:48 AM
I'm having a different problem installing, writing "boot scsi 0 morpos-2.1-efikainstall.img" gives:

error: error while trying to load or boot.

Any ideas what I should try?
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: arnljot on September 20, 2008, 12:37:00 AM
trying with a different disk (a WD USB disk which is not a memory stick) I get:

list-files hd0
DOS partition 0: fat21/lba (0xC)
error: no filesystem recognized

boot hd0 morphos-2.1-efikainstall.img
error: no filesystem recognized

boot scsi 0 morphos-2.1-efikainstall.img
error: bootimage format is of an unknown format

So... I'm not sure what's up :)

EDIT:
When using "show-scsi" when trying to use the memstick. It says:
USB Storage:
Disk | Kingston | DataTraveler 2.0 | PMAP | SCSI-0 removable

And when trying to list the files:
error: unexpected NULL (pointer to) instance

What should I try now?
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: adolescent on September 20, 2008, 02:16:01 AM
Quote

arnljot wrote:
I'm having a different problem installing, writing "boot scsi 0 morpos-2.1-efikainstall.img" gives:

error: error while trying to load or boot.

Any ideas what I should try?


Should be "scsi:0" not "scsi 0".
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: arnljot on September 20, 2008, 02:33:26 AM
Thanks, I just found that googling. But now I get a new error:

When I set up the 60GB HD it doesn't manage to save a RDB table to it it says. And if I try to save a MBR it just freezes.

Also, I only seem able to boot the install image from my Western Digital passport(320GB), and not from any of my usb memsticks.

EDIT: The message I get is: "RDB Partition Table creation failed for unit 0"

EDIT 2: Actually, if I go in and out of HDConfig after this "TOSHIBA MK6025GA" "no medium inserted"

EDIT 3: Now I'm past that. Following an advice fond at powerdeveloper via google, I put the disk in a laptop, fired up an ubuntu live distro and wrote "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1", thus overwriting the MBR on the disk.

This way, MOS was able to write an MBR or RDB on it with no problems.

Wierd :)
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: arnljot on September 20, 2008, 05:06:40 AM
Quote

gazgod wrote:
In the open firmware type the following commands to set up auto booting :-

setenv boot-file boot.img 3D ramdebug
Gaz


I could not use 3D and ramdebut. It made the efika bog-slow and made the mouse fall out. PS, I use a 128MB Radeon9200 with my efika
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: amigadave on September 20, 2008, 05:42:26 AM
Hello all,  I have been having severe
back problems for the past 7 to 10 days
that have kept me in bed most of the
time, but managed to drag myself out to
work on my EFIKA again.

I finally got my keyfile installed and
no longer need to worry about the time
limitation.  Hurray!!!  It was screwed
up before due to being transferred from
my Mac as a resource file, but all is
well now and I am typing this from my
EFIKA now.

The next task is to replace the 4gb hdd
with the 60gb hdd I removed from my dead
G4 PowerBook. Another task that is high
on my priority list is getting the
display to 1024x768 or higher.  Specially
with Sputnik for web browsing.  I am now
using an old Nokia 447W crt monitor,
which should be able to display 1024x768
at least. I can't seem to get the Screens
or Monitor Prefs to do anything.  Very
strange and a bit frustrating, but I am
sure it is me, being such an amatuer on
MorphOS. :-D
Title: Re: morphos 2.1 install efika
Post by: Fab12 on September 20, 2008, 01:34:05 PM
Quote

I could not use 3D and ramdebut. It made the efika bog-slow and made the mouse fall out. PS, I use a 128MB Radeon9200 with my efika


Mh, not exactly sure, but were you using a 16bits screenmode and default skin? If so, that's probably the reason why it was slow (debuglog is spammed by a missing conversion error message for shadows, which can probably slow down the efika). Try again with 32bits to be sure.