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Offline Pentad

Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2010, 04:35:53 AM »
Boy that output looks pretty bad....Maybe composite is bad?!?  

I'm sure you would get better offers on eBay if you could get a Kickstart Request screen.

Maybe try emailing Dave Haynie or Bil Herd?  Bil's a super nice guy...

Thanks for making the weekend more interesting!

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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2010, 05:02:56 AM »
More pics... in one of them there are two ?resistors? that are cut??? should I try soldering them back together:confused:
 
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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2010, 07:03:43 AM »
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Woooh, good ! Blue buttons mouse ?

The NEOS was for the C-64, they probably bought a bunch of those and hand-modified them.

It's very similar in mechanics to the old 1351 C-64 mouse.

I also found this on my travels on the internet:
http://www.tcocd.de/Pictures/Peripheral/Mitsumi/ccmouse.shtml

Obviously Mitsumi made the mice, as they were one of the subcontractors for Commodore..

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Maybe try emailing Dave Haynie or Bil Herd?  Bil's a super nice guy...

Those two guys were not involved with the Amiga at this stage, so they might not have the best knowledge about this era. You want some of those guys whose names are written beneath the top cover of production A1000s.. They were actually there.
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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2010, 07:59:46 AM »
Hmm.. not have the signs behind the Top CPU cover
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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2010, 09:53:08 AM »
I wouldn't suggest soldering those resistors; most probably they've been cut for a reason! Stay on the safe side methinks..
 

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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2010, 11:03:42 AM »
Can I make a plea... Don`t mess around with the machine anymore. Everytime you do anything you are at risk of destroying what appears to be a valuable piece of Amiga history. Anyway, if you could give me the nods up when you are putting on Ebay. Can you try not to damage the box, any paperwork and log all your photographs onto a CD. Also create a text file of what you discovered so far and just how you got the Amiga.

Well done by the way for spotting this important computer.

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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2010, 11:58:15 AM »
nice piece indeed! it looks more like a pre-production for developers than a prototype IMHO.

Anyway, enjoy it! :-)
 

Offline scuzzb494

Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2010, 01:40:05 PM »
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nice piece indeed! it looks more like a pre-production for developers than a prototype IMHO.

Anyway, enjoy it! :-)


I thought the same thing.

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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2010, 03:04:37 PM »
Can I ask one question for anyone who has ever seen the inside of an A1000 before...

WHERE IS THE DAUGHTERBOARD???

It's either missing alltogheter (which would explain why the system doesnt WORK correctly) or it is indeed a VERY RARE and early prototype of the A1000...
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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2010, 04:30:14 PM »
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Can I ask one question for anyone who has ever seen the inside of an A1000 before...

WHERE IS THE DAUGHTERBOARD???

It's either missing alltogheter (which would explain why the system doesnt WORK correctly) or it is indeed a VERY RARE and early prototype of the A1000...




There is no daughterboard in an Amiga 1000... Or are you talking about the expansion often installed to the machine..

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0106/car_0106_070.jpg

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0106/car_0106_075.jpg

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz294.htm

PS: This shows you how to take the 1000 apart

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Commodore-Amiga-1000-Teardown/2266/1

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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2010, 04:35:41 PM »
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There is no daughterboard in an Amiga 1000... Or are you talking about the expansion often installed to the machine..

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0106/car_0106_070.jpg

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/car_0106/car_0106_075.jpg

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz294.htm

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My A1K mobo has the daughter board, it is an array of PAL Logic chips that became Garry in the A500.

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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2010, 04:41:37 PM »
Yeah, scuzz.. you evidently havent seen the inside of too many A1000s...

I had 6 of them, and every single one had the daughterboard..

In this pic:

http://mynikonphotos.com/amiga/assembled1.jpg

The board in the back is an aftermarket "A1000 insider" ram expansion.. The board near the front, is the daughterboard that cam factory on the machine..

It's possible that some revisions came with no daughterboard.. all of the onese I had were US sold NTSC machines.. All had the daughterboard..

So see if that board has a GARY (5719) chip..
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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2010, 05:23:00 PM »
NTSC A1000's had the daughterboard, PAL ones didn't.
 

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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2010, 05:34:32 PM »
Not sure if this is relevant but just in case people out there do not know what this great machine is capable of, two of my videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkHsf7AYlNc
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Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2010, 06:12:54 PM »
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NTSC A1000's had the daughterboard, PAL ones didn't.


Yeah, I think you are right. My A1000 (ntsc) had a daughter board.


So is this one PAL or missing the daughterboard,  or could it possibly be a rare NTSC version w/out daughter board?


These are great pictures btw.  Thanks for the quality and quantity.  Super awesome find.
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Offline scuzzb494

Re: I have a new in box Commodore Amiga 1000 Prototype
« Reply #44 from previous page: May 23, 2010, 06:27:26 PM »
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Yeah, scuzz.. you evidently havent seen the inside of too many A1000s...

I had 6 of them, and every single one had the daughterboard..

In this pic:

http://mynikonphotos.com/amiga/assembled1.jpg

The board in the back is an aftermarket "A1000 insider" ram expansion.. The board near the front, is the daughterboard that cam factory on the machine..

It's possible that some revisions came with no daughterboard.. all of the onese I had were US sold NTSC machines.. All had the daughterboard..

So see if that board has a GARY (5719) chip..


I have no idea where this guy is from but here in the UK all my PAL versions have no daughter board. And there are three Amiga 1000s in this room... So why would I think the 1000 needed a daughter board. The machine I showed works fine. Seems odd that you would need a board just to work in the computers native country. Anyway I bow to your superior knowledge...

PAL Motherboard

http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/a1000,5

NTSC

http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/a1000,2

You learn something every day.


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