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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 04:56:03 PM »
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One of problems of A4000T is that the Lisa/Alice are often close to accelerator.  And some accelerators are big etc.  so thats something to keep in mind.  an external flicker fixer is much safer?


External is out of the question, as Indivision depends on signals that are on the chip bus, but not on the video slot or RGB slot.

So, if accelerators are getting in the way, could you all take hi-res photos of he area? I did acquire an A4000T this week, but it's not working and has the original Commodore 040 card.

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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2009, 04:56:53 PM »
Interested in buying one.
 

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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2009, 10:21:43 AM »
Keep those photos of installed accelerators coming! Oh wait, nobody took one yet...

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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2009, 01:15:40 PM »
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Keep those photos of installed accelerators coming! Oh wait, nobody took one yet...

Jens


@Jens
if this is becoming reality... do you intend to make it (space-wise) compatible with all accelerators? And would really need pictures or is the distance as indicated in the picture enough?
 

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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2009, 01:45:46 PM »
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Keep those photos of installed accelerators coming! Oh wait, nobody took one yet...

Jens

Sorry no one has posted the pics you need Jens, I will try to get a pic of my A4000T/CSPPC combo posted today.  I don't particularly wish to remove every A4000 compatible accelerator from my other Amiga models and put them into my A4000T to take additional pictures, but if others here do not start posting pictures of their own A4000T's with different accelerators, I guess that is the least I could do to help you out with your research and decision making.

Edit: @HyAmi, I think Jens intention is to make room for most, if not all A4000T compatible accelerators to work with the A4000T version of the IndivisionAGA.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2009, 01:51:00 PM by amigadave »
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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2009, 05:38:47 PM »
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Edit: @HyAmi, I think Jens intention is to make room for most, if not all A4000T compatible accelerators to work with the A4000T version of the IndivisionAGA.

Yeah, I thought the same. However, an accelerator like the Quikpak 4060 is quite a nasty beast in terms of size (and layout).

If no-one beats me to it, I'll take a picture of the A3640. The Quikpak XP rev2 is (in direction of the Lisa chip) the same size as the A3640.
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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2009, 07:06:59 PM »
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So, if accelerators are getting in the way, could you all take hi-res photos of he area? I did acquire an A4000T this week, but it's not working and has the original Commodore 040 card.

Jens


Jens, if you need an A4000T board for testing let me know and I'll send you one. I have fully working one I can miss for a while.
It also has all the IO modules.

PM me if you are interested.
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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2009, 09:03:02 PM »
Any plans to produce automatic monitor switchers?
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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2009, 09:46:46 PM »
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Any plans to produce automatic monitor switchers?

Thats abit off topic, lol.

Jens, I would love to see an indivision for a True A4000T.
I also think people would want them.
I know its not alot, but I have had atleast 4 to 6 questions regarding an A4000T scandoubler.

Whats that old quote from that film, "If you build it, they will come" ;).
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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2009, 10:00:36 PM »
I would love have one for my A4000T.
 

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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2009, 10:12:48 PM »
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Thats abit off topic, lol.



I know, but I don't have an A4000T and am just about to buy an indivision for my A4000 and it hit me that nearly everyone who bought one that also has a graphics card would want to buy a decent switcher.
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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2009, 06:12:19 AM »
I need photos of the accelerator(s) as they are installed in the A4000T, with Lisa visible on that same photo - ideally seen from top. Please double-check that the photo is focused, use a tripod and close the aperture as far as possible to increase focus and avoid using a flash.

I won't need a working A4000T, as the chipset behaviour will be the same as in the other AGA machines, where I have all flavours here. Development will be possible without a working A4000T; the one I own is enough for a mechanical sample. I'm happy to send a sample to someone for testing before production starts, just to play it safe, but that's far in the future right now.

I am not planning on a switch at the moment, this would make the thing even more expensive. It'll already be hard enough to reach that 129,- EUR goal with such small space available.

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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2009, 03:54:02 AM »
@ Schoenfeld

Regarding switchers, Eyetech made a series of automatic and manual ones that would connect to the 10pin IDC ribbon header of the DCE scandoubler. If the Indivisions use the same pinout (is 10pin IDC VGA a standard?) maybe they might work out of the box...?
 

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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2009, 04:10:59 AM »
Hi Jens, its a super idea. I plan buy your Indivision AGA for A4000T too.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 04:14:07 AM by Marien »
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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2009, 02:33:26 PM »
Jens, maybe I can help. Here is an X-ray of the area on the A4000T mobo, with some overlays:
 

 
Lisa is blue, you have to avoid the red areas:
 
1 = Forward stand-off point for the accelerator
2 = PAL/NTSC jumper block
3 = Capacitor
4 = Keyboard connector
5 = Discs Module (SCSI etc)
 
The green is where I reckon you can build, if you keep the Indivision lower than the accelerator board.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 02:35:58 PM by X-ray »
 

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Re: Indivision AGA for A4000 Tower?
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 29, 2009, 02:43:22 PM »
If you don't want any part of the Indivision to be under the accelerator (In this case Cyberstorm MK II or Cyberstorm PPC), then you have this space to work with:
 

 
Here is a crappy phone picture of my A4000T with the PPC installed, note the red areas. The arrow shows the position of the forward standoff in relation to the edge of the board:
 
« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 03:08:27 PM by X-ray »