Ease off bashing AmigaONE X1000?

[Megamig]

The X1000 is poorly implemented and overpriced. How can one dare charge that amount of money for a prototype (especially when it is still not fully functional)

Secondly, how is Raspberry Pi Foundation able to turn out computers for under US$50, yet we have not seen a similar priced native compatible Amiga 4.x system

[Megamig]

Hardware is fully functional and its not a prototype.
Fact that OS 4.1 does not support all its features (but Linux does) is well known. Having it out now is better then waiting 2014 or so for OS 4.2 to be out. As well as you get license for OS 4.2

a) Who would spend $3,000+ on a Linux machine?
b) A-EON should discount the x1000 until fully operational under OS 4.x
c) A license to 4.2 is not worth thousands of dollars
 
Back to the Raspberry Pi argument. You could buy 90+ (model b) or 125+ (model a) for the same cost as one X1000. Some people like C= USA and E-on believe that just because you add a Amiga logo or use a model designation such as 1000 it warrants a huge premium.
 
So where does this put Individual computers? Should Jens start selling his ACA cards @ $600+ each, his Indivision @ $1,000 because of the limited market. There is a lot that can be learned from Individual Computers such as reasonable pricing and innovative products. As far as those bitching about modifying their Amiga 1200s to get ACA cards to work - buy a X1000 if you can't be bothered.

[Megamig]

@haywirepc
 
There is only one Xena worth talking about. Xena: Warrior Princess!

[Megamig]

"We need to build computers for the masses, not the classes". Jack Tramiel
 
Therefore the criticism for the X1000 is warranted. What were the designers of the X1000 thinking when they were building this product. Lets build a computer that only a handful of users can afford.

The original Commodore-Amiga (1000) retailed at US$1,295 adjusted to 2013 levels that would be US$2,446. Cheaper than the X1000.
 
At least the Amiga 1000 was fully functioning at the time of release apart from a buggy kickstart. The original Amiga offered innovation and specifications that was unmatched by rivals at the time of release.
 
Although Tramiel had left Commodore by the time Amiga was marketed his business principles were still followed by management in the form of the A500, A600, A1200 models.

The X1000 lacks no influence to the Amiga 1000. The case is not A1000 inspired (no keyboard garage), it is overpriced (as mentioned above) and lacks anything remotely custom apart from Xorro - unlike the A1000 which featured custom video and audio chips.
 
What is more insulting (or stupid) is they moving to their next high spec model X2000 without addressing the problems that plagued the X1000 - high cost and lack of Amiga OS 4 compatibility.

E-on needs to address both if they wish to be feasible in the future. A X1000CR (cost reduced) model would be welcomed by many Amiga users if they could get the performance and price balance right.

[Megamig]

Good luck with 125 Pi`s of your choice.

Truly you have more money than sense if you believe that a X1000 is worth the equivalent of 125 Pi's. What is the wholesale cost of producing a X1000?
 

Please, ACA cards are 030 and offered for Classics. OS4 equivalent of middle or next to lowest solution would be some of SAM 440 models on different frequencies, that cost less then some of Classic expansions on net. Used. Today.

You really don't get it. My point is that innovation does not have to come with a huge price tag. Jens could have gone for a 040, 060 or PPC card instead of the 020/030 but the cost would have priced most users out.

[Megamig]

The vast majority of this world cannot afford a Ferrari, but I don't see people rising en masse and picketing the streetcorners in Maranello claiming that the Ferrari Corporation is the Devil incarnate

Ferraris are worth their prestige as their quality is high. Comparing the X1000 to a Ferrari is like comparing chalk to cheese - one is refined the other is a work in progress.
 
Out of curiosity have the manufacturers of the X1000 guaranteed that all features will be implemented in full on future Amiga OS 4 releases or will they just ignore the X1000 once it is discontinued in favour of the X2000?

[Megamig]

So the X1000 is the (Apple) Lisa of Amigas?

I agree that Individual computers are not the first to produce an Amiga accelerator but to imply that the ACA is not a 'new' design is ridiculous.

Jens is not producing Amiga products for charity and stores such as AmigaKit are not selling them at a loss.

So it goes back to my original argument which is if Individual computers are able to deliver products at a reasonable price why is that not possible when it comes to the X1000?

[Megamig]

The X1000 is what happens when you put passion over common sense (or a feasibility study).

Correct me if I am wrong but would've it been more economically viable if Amiga 4.x was ported over to ARM or x86 architecture. Mac moved away from PowerPC for a reason and future Amiga 4.x development should have followed Apple's lead.

If this route was taken it would have been easier (and cheaper) to purchase generic ARM/x86 motherboards and modify the BIOS with exclusive OS 4.x code to restrict the use of Amiga 4.x on other systems - again similar to Apple.

IMHO A-Eon needs to produce a X1000CR (ie. X500) before the X2000. Otherwise the next major headline will read A-Eon bankrupt - buyers owed thousands.