launch an anti apple protest

[david]

This is to force Apple to give up its control of the PowerPC.

[odin]

An apple a day keeps the docter away!

[Unit21]

I have no problem with Apple.
They are much of the reason why the PPC is here in
the first place.

My wife has a sleek Apple contraption that never
stops amazing me when it comes to stability.

So I guess that Jobs has gotten something right...

[david]

Unfortunately, since Apple has exclusive rights to the G5, Amiga users cannot have the current hardware. Also Amiga will always fall behind ht eMac is no one cares, like you two.

[Seehund]

david wrote:
Unfortunately, since Apple has exclusive rights to the G5, Amiga users cannot have the current hardware. Also Amiga will always fall behind ht eMac is no one cares, like you two.

Exclusive rights? "Amiga"?
Well, that's one way to look at it, I suppose.

AmigaOS users cannot have "current hardware" (i.e. iMacs/PowerMacs if you're talking about "G5" machines) because the OS isn't allowed to be made for current hardware. That would require Apple or an Apple dealer to suddenly go insane and enter a licensing deal with KMOS to sell AmigaOS bundled with Macs.

It's the AmigaOS owners/licensors/whatever-KMOS-are-supposed-to-be-referred-to-as that are stopping AmigaOS from being sold for proper hardware, not hardware companies.

See my signature if you're really that new here.

[iamaboringperson]

:lol:

This is to force Apple to give up its control of the PowerPC

What's wrong with Apple?



(And more importantly, why have you posted this under 'suggestions and feedback'?)

[HopperJF]

My thoughts:-

1. There is nothing wrong with Apple
2. They produce the best and most reliable home computers available
3. They make the most advanced and stable OS available
4. This thread is stupid and should be closed and deleted

[T_Bone]

david wrote:
Unfortunately, since Apple has exclusive rights to the G5, Amiga users cannot have the current hardware. Also Amiga will always fall behind ht eMac is no one cares, like you two.

It's not Apple's fault you can't run AmigaOS4 on a G5, it's Amiga Inc's fault.

If I could run AmigaOS4 on Apple hardware, I'd be in like Flynn.

As it is, they waited too long and the only "Amiga" licensed hardware is just too outdated. Maybe someday I'll buy an Amiga, when the draconian licensing scheme no longer exists. Hell, even Microsoft doesn't dictate what hardware I can use, when you're worse than MS, you know there's a problem.

[adolescent]

@HopperJF

1.  Yes there is.  They are guilty of price fixing and other monopolistic tactics.  (ie. the iPod battery incident, the suit against Musicmatch for daring to load songs "illegally" onto iPods, etc.)  They're no better than Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft.  

2.  Best?  That's too subjective to say.  Most reliable?  Care to back that up with actual facts?

3.  Again, subjective.  I'd say that some of the real time OSs would be more advanced and a helllllll of a lot more stable.  (Kernel changes while running without a reboot ever...  I don't think Mach can do that).

4.  I agree.  

[minator]

This is to force Apple to give up its control of the PowerPC.

Apple don't have control of he PowerPC, they appear to have special access to the fastest chips yes, but thats only for a limited time - anyone can buy G5s.

Even if Amiga or Genesi had access to the fastest chips they couldn't afford them in the quantities they buy so it's completely irrelevant.

The vast majority of PPCs are sold into the embedded market, Apple gets at most a few percent of the PPC chips made.

[adolescent]

david wrote:
Unfortunately, since Apple has exclusive rights to the G5, Amiga users cannot have the current hardware. Also Amiga will always fall behind ht eMac is no one cares, like you two.

Apple does not have exclusive rights to the G5.  IBM and others offer PowerPC 970/970fx based workstations.  

Edit:  Yes, they probably have rights to the G5 name, but that doesn't mean much since they made it up.  :-D

[Samuar]

IBM, Motorola and Apple all control PowerPC. Its their product, they can do what they like with it.

Given that IBM and Motorola like making money, no reason why it can't be sold to others - and already is.

Samuar

[Acill]

Nothing wrong with Apple at all. I happen to love my Macs as much as my Pegasos II.

[B00tDisk]

I'll say this: given Jobs' personality, if the shoe were on the other foot, Apple would be no different from Microsoft.

[Lando]

Acill wrote:
Nothing wrong with Apple at all. I happen to love my Macs as much as my Pegasos II.

Me too.  The only thing I don't like about this iBook is how slow it feels compared to Pegasos and MorphOS (even thought the Peg is supposedly slower).  But I still love it.  I wish something like Apple's iLife package was available for MorphOS.