Heretic II , Problem!

[lempkee]

ok , this is a weird one.

For old times sake i played trough heretic2 again (by hyperion) and i came to the last level and i had saved all the way troughout the game , then i got 256mb ram and i installed that in my machine (a1260/240) and now my save games wont work.

i saw this earlier on and i expected it to be that i needed the update , but this aint the problem, last time i played the game from start again, i hope i wont need to do this again.


anyway it seems when i change hw (memory , from 128 to 256 the game simply wont work anymore (save games only) .

i have tryed everything, i emailed hyperion about it sometime ago aswell (last time it happened) , but back then it wasn't really as "OH NO!" as now , so i just played it from start again.


thanx for any help!

 

[lempkee]

bleh i forgot to say ,  i use latest updates and i am regged on the hyperion site and since i emailed you last time about it and got no proper solve...help me now...either by a pm or a email or answer in the forum (if i violate any hyperion support rules...that is)

thanx

[lempkee]

amigr: save games was made with LATEST update , and i am using LATEST update now , all that is changed is my memory.
(and i allready contacted hyperion about it once, and funny enough i got the same answer as you gave now , this was a while back and i wasnt sure if i had the latest upd on both old and new , so i just replayed all levels ... anyway NOW I AM SURE i use the latest version)


cojo: will try right away..., thanx for the tip!

cheers

[lempkee]

damn tht didnt work ;(

SRR0: 770D038C    SRR1:  0000F070     MSR:   00003040    HID0: 0040C000
PVR:  00071201    DAR:   56893B74     DSISR: 40000000    SDR1: 73C0003F
DEC:  00002A8B    TBU:   00000001     TBL:   EA41C974    XER:  00000000
CR:   48004448    FPSCR: 82022000     LR:    76FE4134    CTR:  00000000

R0-R3:   00000000 764B0E30 75BB8688 00000070   IBAT0: 00001FFF 00000022
R4-R7:   56893B74 76ED2714 000000FF 00000000   IBAT1: 00000000 00000000
R8-R11:  00000001 773EE3BC 00000000 00000000   IBAT2: 00000000 00000000
R12-R15: 28000448 764B1280 73B67968 73B6BE5C   IBAT3: 00000000 00000000
R16-R19: 764B11C0 0000004C 00000000 75C90000   DBAT0: 00001FFF 0000002A
R20-R23: 76EF0000 76EF0000 76EF0000 00000000   DBAT1: 00000000 00000000
R24-R27: 7747F6C4 00000001 0000000F 75E6FDE0   DBAT2: 00000000 00000000
R28-R31: 0000001A 774852A4 7747F6C4 774852A4   DBAT3: 00000000 00000000

F0-F3:     0               0               4.7200 E 2      0          
F4-F7:     1.0000 E 0      1.0000 E 0      0               0          
F8-F11:    1.0000 E 3      0               1.0000 E-1      0          
F12-F15:   9.9999 E-3      0               0               0          
F16-F19:   0               0               0               0          
F20-F23:   0               0               0               0          
F24-F27:   0               0               0               0          
F28-F31:   0               0               0               0          

Warp-OS                                              2000 by Sam Jordan


thats the error...when loading my save game.

any help would be appriciated.

cheers

[lempkee]

karlos: nope ;( ... just instantly after i load the level it crash (savegame) and i am forced to do a reboot.

i can start a new game, works fine...but not loading a savegame.

..


all this just because of .. 128mb upgrade to 256.. ;(

[lempkee]

only mem was changed indeed .. ;(

really weird yes...

tried a friends save's also... SAME! problem.

it seems saves are restricted to the system they was made on...

####...and i was on the very last level also ;(

oh well... seems i have to do it all again then

[lempkee]

doomy:... going for the babble trophy ?

anyway if heretic 2 is better on pc than on amiga then you really need to get your eye's checked!

on your milletary amiga 2000 it wont even run so i dont know why you even bothered to visit this thread...

also here is a clue magoo, this game doesnt even work on XP ... so hurrah!... nowait maybe there is an 180mb update you need to download, oh wait i dont even own a pc! , so how would i know if this game is on pc even? ...oh wait..wasn't RAVEN an amiga team ? ..oh yes they was... oh oh oh oh!

[lempkee]

cu_amiga:buy more ram , but heretic2 save games will not work... its the only issue i have had so far and i have tested it all...
anyway its just a save game , you can save new ones while u play when you have 256mb in it.
i played about 2 hours into the game again and thoose saves works just fine.


i have emailed hyperion about it again today.

anyway you get this error when u upgrade from 64 -> 128 also... , just checked + also if you change from 040 ppc to 060 ppc ..

so its definitly a bug.

cheers

[lempkee]

doomy: oh ok .. WOW ...NOT! .. i use 1 amiga and no pc etc...and guess what..i dont have a need for a pc even!! do u know why??

BECAUSE ITS NOT A TOY! .

bye to u mr.2000 troll

[lempkee]

hitchcock: (punk guy ) no i didnt , because i did this.

last game i played before switching to 256 ..was heretic2 , 5 mins later i added the mem and it didnt work (save games) .

so i reinstalled the game to make sure + installed updates....still same..

the sim's are definitly working under 60ns 256 since heretic2 is the only prob..and that prob is only with save games (old).

all other #### is ok.

old simm's was 60ns also... , i might try it to make sure but hey that doesnt help me at all, as i am not going back

 still waiting for answer from hyperion about this.


cheers and thanx for interests in helping me out.

pps:doomy go and post somewhere else.

[lempkee]

no i didnt try setting at 70ns , because i got more mem to make it faster , anyway games collapsing at 60ns happened alot when i used some other simm's 12months or so ago...this doesnt happen now.

so i am pretty sure thats not it , and most of all remeber... i can start new game and make new SAVES! and load them as normal!

but not my saves from 128mb time ;( , really sad..

and ohboy!! its annoying! because this is the second time in the last 4 months ;(

i can send you my saves , maybe when i installed the new ram they somewhat got messed up?.

afaik its about 7 megs.. let me know if you want me to do that.

cheers and thanx for replying hans jøerg!

[lempkee]

oops , i forgot.

yes simm's are diffrent , i had 2x64mb , now i have 2x128mb  , old ones was samsung 60ns , new ones are hp 60ns .

size is approx same and both attach fine to my board.

games like shogo/freespace/quake2 etc runs brilliantly with the mem and much faster than on 128mb , because of texture caches ofcourse..
(though its not many fps but its faster for sure)

also no options was changed in my settings on the bppc bootmenu , i changed nothing in the games either...just loaded it up...  and eventually (for the others) i pushed up the cache..

and i pushed up the cache in heretic 2 also (gl_texturecache xxxxxxxx) and that works fine if i start a new game and save...and load up the save.

old saves still doesnt work

pps: i back'd up my save games in a special drawer before i uninstalled it (heretic2) , installer asked if i wanted to keep my settings + save games...so i selected yes , found out saves didnt work (just got the wos exception) so i copied my back'd up ones into the dir and tried them...same error ;( .

hope this helps..

cheers

[lempkee]

pps: no need to delay os4 dev because of this prob in heretic2 for me.., but it would be nice if you took a look atleast.

if nothing is fixable or findable, well i will replay it while i wait for os4

[lempkee]

cu_amiga... ;( u dont read the posts...

anyway i allready told about the speed increase, it wont be much higher ofcourse..its just that you can cache alot more in ram (and thts a good thing)
also if you use SFS you can set MUCH high buffers , which means the whole system can e alot faster , sure you could do it with 128mb ram also , but heh not very wise if you want to play a game that require 100 mb or so with normal settings

beyond that....170mb is free here when i am not 1. games (3d)  , 2. internet (cache is to ram). 3. dooing 3d stuff.

and i havent been able to run out of memory yet

[lempkee]

yeah i might babble too much

anyway the main thing is, games like quake1,2,heretic2,shogo,freespace is games that will run on 32mb and up , but that doesnt mean having 128 will make it perfect since your system might be like mine (a boot require like 50megs ) , this is just stackattack/disk buffers etc so basically i could live without that but since i have an powerflyer i feel its really needed.

there is alot of ways to make your amiga faster and some can be a overkill and it also depends on your file system.

still confused ?.