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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: AmigaOS 4.x WB official replacement why not?
« on: May 30, 2015, 08:28:29 AM »
Quote from: trekiej;790188
I noticed that MUI and Magic Workbench was on the same site, as far as I remember.
Does anyone still use Magic Workbench or have I been living on a different hdd for too long?

They were both from SASG, waaaaaaay back in the day.  ;)  Wonder whatever happened to those guys?  From what I recall they stopped taking registrations at least 10 years ago.  Shame, since everybody still uses MUI, you'd think they'd want to make at least a little money off licenses, right?  :laugh1:

And to answer your second question, I still use MagicWB icons on my A500.  I bet a lot of people do!  They do have that sort of classic/nostalgic feel to them, compared to more modern GlowIcons/Ken's Icons/etc., as well as lower system overhead.  I've actually been thinking about reformatting my A500 with 3.9, because I find more and more I "can't live" without the more modern features, but swapping back MagicWB icons in over-top of the GlowIcons.  Just for that nostalgia feeling.  :)

Edit:  Wait, you can still register MUI?  Well I'll be damned.  At least you  could in 2007, LOL.  ;)

Edit to my edit:  Erm, nevermind.  Now you got me thinking about it though, I might as well send him the money that I never could, back when I was a broke teenager.  Couldn't hurt!
« Last Edit: May 30, 2015, 08:52:49 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: AmigaOS 4.x WB official replacement why not?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2015, 08:18:44 AM »
Quote from: trekiej;790272
Sorry, I can not really remember the situation. The Workbench icons do not seem to be aligned, I guess after booting or rebooting. Maybe I just can not remember this very well. It may have been fixed since then. Maybe I am still asleep. :)

You say you want them "aligned", or to stay in one place?  This is two different things.  Also older versions of Workbench lacked some of the features of newer.  Try MagicMenu, I think it adds even more options.  But you can definitely do align,  you can even change to something like "show all files" "view by name" (instead of by icon) and snapshot the directory to always display that way.  Only hard one is getting the AppIcons to stay in place, because those need to be snapshotted in their original drawer, not in their position on the Workbench.  Fun stuff!  :)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: AmigaOS 4.x WB official replacement why not?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2015, 05:50:27 AM »
Quote from: slaapliedje;790401
I do find it rather funny, I almost always forget to snapshot things, but it is kind of one of those crappy, yet awesome features that I haven't seen in any other OS.  Most of them just allow list, icon view, sort alphabetical, ascending, descending, sort by date, etc.  But I don't know a single one that just lets you sort them however you damn well please.

Tell me about it, man.  I'm in the process of replacing all my standard 3.9 GlowIcons with Ken's Icons right now.  Looks beautiful, but after six hours of hunting through archives to find "just the right one", copying it over the old one, then "clean up by name", "resize to fit", "snapshot", I think I'm about done!  ;)  Thank god at least 3.9 supports drag & drop replacement of icons, back in the day I'd have been up all night doing this!  ;)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: AmigaOS 4.x WB official replacement why not?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2015, 05:55:44 AM »
Quote from: trekiej;790402
I think when it boots they are not aligned.

Gonna need more information than that!  :lol:

- What version of Workbench?
- What version of Kickstart?
- Which icons, specifically, are you referring to?  The main Workbench screen, icons inside a drawer, or somewhere else?
- See the last screenshot in my above post - do you know where those options are?  "Window", "Clean up by...", "Snapshot Window", "Snapshot All", etc.
- Are you selecting the icons you want snapshotted when you click on "Snapshot"?  Alternatively, if you want an entire drawer of icons snapshotted you should have the parent drawer itself selected
- Are you running MagicMenus?  If so, what version?
- Are you running any other hacks or patches or tools that could be interfering with placement of icons?
- Can you post a screenshot?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2015, 06:02:06 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: AmigaOS 4.x WB official replacement why not?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2015, 06:39:18 AM »
Quote from: trekiej;790422
I think os3.1 on the workbench. At times the drawers are a mess. I do believe Aros may have the same problem.
It will clean and snapshot. I seem to have to repeat it. I feel like it has been this way since the 90's
plain jane workbench
Unless I am confused with os2.x

I can't speak for AROS, but you you might want to try again under AmigaOS.  It's worked just fine for me (and most other users) since 1985.  ;)

I would recommend when you're ready to start troubleshooting this, post a screenshot.  I suspect you're not clicking on the right thing.  For example if you're telling it to snapshot a window but you don't have any window selected.  There are a couple different options and they can be confusing.  Am sure it's something simple though.  :)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos