Help: Poseidon 4.5 MUI Stack Error

[Acill]

When I installed Poseidon 4.5 on my A4000T with 3.9 BB1 and BB2 and MUI 3.9 I got a stack error from the MUI stack check at boot up. The first one was for Trident telling me the 8k was to low and it recommended 32400. So I went into prefs and took care of that in the icon information.

The 2nd one was for the Poseidon PopUp Notification App called (PoPO) which I have been combing through my system to find!!!! I cant locate this anywhere and I cant get my USB working and suspect its related to the warning.

Can anyone please tell me where to change the stack size for this Poseidon PoPo thing?

[mechy]

When I installed Poseidon 4.5 on my A4000T with 3.9 BB1 and BB2 and MUI 3.9 I got a stack error from the MUI stack check at boot up. The first one was for Trident telling me the 8k was to low and it recommended 32400. So I went into prefs and took care of that in the icon information.

The 2nd one was for the Poseidon PopUp Notification App called (PoPO) which I have been combing through my system to find!!!! I cant locate this anywhere and I cant get my USB working and suspect its related to the warning.

Can anyone please tell me where to change the stack size for this Poseidon PoPo thing?

I thought this was part of the main stack program, its what pops up alerts. I think you can adjust it in the main program prefs,but unfortunately i cant help other than that. i had a few odd things happen with 4.5 so i dropped back to 4.4 and all is smooth.

[Acill]

I haven't even tried 4.4 but have it now. Can I just install it over 4.5 to replace it?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I have Poseidon 4.5.  From what I recall I updated from 4.4 when I got my RapidRoad.  It wasn't much of a change, just a few classes and hardware drivers, more than anything, from what I recall.

For what it's worth, PoPo is started by PsdStackloader

Specifically, the command should be in your S:User-Startup file, as:

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ENVARC:PsdStackloader
I confirm that commenting that command out kills the "PoPo" commodity on reboot.

I swear there was a setting for stack size somewhere within Prefs:Trident preferences program, but I'll be damned if I can find that now.

Will try to poke around a little more for you but am buried at work right now.  In any case, I wouldn't recommend rolling back to 4.4 - 4.5 does work!  

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Side thought - if you get the error message again can you take a screenshot?  Maybe that would help someone else identify where it was coming from?

[Acill]

Can try later yup.  Can do file uploads at work. Its an MUI error though. Specifically it reads:

MUI application "PoPo -- Poseidon Popup Provider"

The stack size of 8192 bytes is lower than the
recommended minimum size of 32000 bytes.
Please raise the stack size to at least 32000 bytes,
otherwise the application might crash unexpectedly.

Continue nevertheless                            Exit immediately

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Where did you get MUI 3.9?  I use a heavily updated 3.8 on my classics, and I think there's a 4.0 for MorphOS and maybe OS4.  I heard there was a 4.0 for classics but that it was unstable as h*** and had obscenely high system requirements.  I think 3.9 was just a beta.

I'd roll it back to stock 3.8 if possible, then if it works you can update the individual pieces later.

Edit:  I don't think your application is compatible with 3.9:  https://muidev.de/ticket/123

[Acill]

You can get 3.9 from the MUI dev site. Its here: https://muidev.de/downloads

Here is the screen shot as well.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Roll back to 3.8.  I bet your problem will disappear.  

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Well hey, check this out:

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/ShellUpdate

Just showed up on Aminet.  Do I think it will help you?  Probably not, but being as it's to correct bugs in stack size, it couldn't hurt.  

And thanks, THoR!  

[Geit]

Popo ist a runtime created component in Poseidon. If you want to disable go to "poseidon settings (Trident)" and select "PopUps".  

There you can disable and modify the requesters as well as the audio output for usb connect/disconnect.

Disabling "PSDStackloader" of course disables the Popo stuff, because it disables the entire Poseidon USB Stack.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Popo ist a runtime created component in Poseidon. If you want to disable go to "poseidon settings (Trident)" and select "PopUps".  

There you can disable and modify the requesters as well as the audio output for usb connect/disconnect.

Disabling "PSDStackloader" of course disables the Popo stuff, because it disables the entire Poseidon USB Stack.

Yes. Point was that there's no separate executable for PoPo. No separate icon to adjust it's stack size. And unless I didn't look far enough, no option in Trident prefs, either. The amount of stack is hard-coded into the runtime with no option to change.

Still sticking with my previous suggestion: MUI 3.9 is a memory hog (as mentioned in the muidev link).  Try going back to 3.8 and see if that helps.

[Acill]

I ended up using MinStack and setting it in my startup to 32400. Seems to have done the trick. I have USB working now as well. Although if I boot with anything in the USB ports my system will come up to workbench fine for about a half second and reboot by itself. If I take out all USB items it works fine and I can put my mouse or flash dive back in and all is well.

Strange stuff. As for MUI I need some help figuring out how to remove 3.9 so I can put in 3.8 because the 3.8 installer will tell you it has a more recent version installed.

[mechy]

I ended up using MinStack and setting it in my startup to 32400. Seems to have done the trick. I have USB working now as well. Although if I boot with anything in the USB ports my system will come up to workbench fine for about a half second and reboot by itself. If I take out all USB items it works fine and I can put my mouse or flash dive back in and all is well.

Strange stuff. As for MUI I need some help figuring out how to remove 3.9 so I can put in 3.8 because the 3.8 installer will tell you it has a more recent version installed.

remove all the mui assigns in s:user-startup,reboot then delete the mui drawer.
that should allow you to do a fresh 3.8 install.

[Ancalimon]

I have encountered the same problem but I have inserted poseidon stack into my blizkick line (so it's inside my rom). What do you suggest to fix this problem?

I am using psdstackloader as a blizkick module. I wonder if there is a stack command that works inside blizkick and only for one file.