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Will OS4 have SMP after all
« on: July 23, 2013, 01:54:24 PM »
And what it will be like ?

I ask because I want to know ... :smack:
 

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Re: Will OS4 have SMP after all
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 07:57:40 PM »
It was multi-processor ready and it used 060 and PPC at the same time ...

It's just that all the educated people claimed that there is no way to do true
SMP support without basically writing new Os  (like TMHG said once) ...

But I guess there is nothing a man can't achieve so I'm open minded and
would like to hear how they plan to do it ...
 

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Re: Will OS4 have SMP after all
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 07:52:03 PM »
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Yeah, I can't wait to see the public reaction to the Amithlon killer! Bye bye OS4 and MorphOS! ;)

We have ways of making you talk ... :):hammer: :rtfm: :roflmao:
 

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Re: Will OS4 have SMP after all
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2013, 09:52:37 PM »
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I stopped taking drugs 10yrs ago but any truth serum you give me wouldn't have any effect. Neither would violence. ;)

Damn you :lol:

I really wish I knew what Bernd has to show but I guess
I can wait a little bit more :)
 

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Re: Will OS4 have SMP after all
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 10:18:20 PM »
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It might not be Bernd. It could be Harald, or it could be MOS-Team or even der Frieden zwillinge. ;)

£1m into my offshore Jersey savings account might let me tell you though. ;)

Oh well it was worth a try :D
 

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Re: Will OS4 have SMP after all
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 11:03:18 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;742352
Interesting ideas.
I spoiled by MorphOS' excellent JIT software.
Only 68k code needs translation.
Operating system calls are executed natively (and are faster than running UAE).
If I need chipset emulation, then I go to UAE.
Although, with faster, multi-core processors this overhead would be less objectionable.
Of course, if we jettison backward compatibility, what will we have?

PPC Linux with a butterfly logo ???

 

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Re: Will OS4 have SMP after all
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 11:31:24 AM »
Why do you need SMP anyway , just to prove you can do it ?

How many Amiga apps or games do actually need all that speed ?

I can see benefit from MPlayer or Web Plugins using the other cores
in an AMP way but what is the benefit to forcing it into any Amiga Os ?

Hardware is fast enough for Amiga needs already , do you really have
to make it less Amiga just so you could gain questionable amount of
speed at the price of all that hard work ???
 

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Re: Will OS4 have SMP after all
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 12:25:34 PM »
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to what price?

I personal can only hope MorphOS sticks to PPC (as AmigaOS) so no competition for AROS on X86/X64 for a long time :-)

You seem to be forgetting that Aros is free so "competition" ROFL

Morphos and Aros camps combined (let's leave millions of AOS 4 users
out of it ) , number in thousands of souls ...
New users are what is needed and if there is no new users coming now
that both Morphos and Aros are mature and everyone can afford them
then what is the whole point in investing even more time and muscle
in it ?

More promotion is what is needed , both Aros and Morphos are way
cool OSes from a general PC/Windows/Linux perspective and are
fun to use ...
 

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Re: Will OS4 have SMP after all
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 12:42:53 PM »
Well having some new cheap Amiga hardware that could be called
Amiga and run Morphos/Aros/AOS4 certainly would not hurt general
user numbers ...

The name Amiga lost all of it's value after Gateway but it is slowly
thanks to Internet and die-hard Amiga lunatics starting to get some
value again ... Even a few thousands new users coming to all three
camps combined would bring a welcoming change , only new users
have enough life left in them to promote Amiga further ...