Bastards!!!

[som99]

Well, as most people here knows nothing and I get mad by reading some coments here ill speak up!

First off, I bought mine mostly for Linux (else i could just buy a 360), YES I can use my normal PC for linux BUT I wanted to explore the Cell CPU!

I love to code for linux and I love to code for diffrent CPU architectures! I have worked ALOT on ARM based systems and I wanted to work on the PS3.

I do it because I WANT THE CHALLANGE AND TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW! Since I can't ever afford Sonys SDK, what other choice do I have but to code for linux on the PS3?

The PS3 was marketed alot as a Multimedia all in one gaming console, then the OS part should not dissapere.

There will be a way to bypass the FW/SW protections on the PS3 anyways so why bother remove something they advertised the system with? (*chough* rockstars amount of cash spent on awfull DRM that was cracked near release)

Can you guys even imagine how many man hours that is spent on the YDL for PS3?

All that for nothing, because now you have to pick what you want to do, play the great games or use it as a Linux machine, I FOR ONE payed for both.

It's like getting a new Smartphone, and after a few months you have to pick if you want to use it as a Phone to call/text or if you want to be able to use it as a pocket Web browser, ABSURD.

Im mad. Why can't people understand that this might be a big deal for some people, because they want Linux on their PS3 for some reason? Would you be happy if you bought something like a PS3 over say a xbox 360 because of some strong points like alt OS and then it was removed, I might add that I bought the PS3 near release of the system and I payed shitloads more for it then a xbox 360 cost.

Because some of you do not understand why some PS3 owners get upset dosen't mean we are unjustified to complain.

Think how many people around the world think we amiga nuts are crazy because we do what we do! Including my wife that thinks im nuts and I spend to much money on what in hear eyes are old junk, and many of my friend who thinks im nut and just call it expensive junk, and I desperately defend the AMIGA with fists and claws.....

Think about it.

[som99]

No one need update to 3.21... you can stay on 3.15 and have full access to PSN.
Check here: http://rvlution.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=123

It works.

Im not willing to use my PS3 against a strangers DSN server. Atleast not untill I have fully investigated if and what kinds of exploits/bugs it can bring, also not before Aaron releases his config to the public.

Basicly his DSN server redicts me to PSN and my PS3 will think it's updated, tho somehow I can not shake the feeling this could lead to PS3 bans if Sony does something about it.

[som99]

Set up your own DNS? Full instructions are given and it is as easy as falling off a log.

But what good will that do when games are released for higher FW versions? Also a bigger updatate to PSN and FW will eliminate this method.

[som99]

I don't buy games that require network access (I don't play multiplayer games, obviously), so I'm good to go as long as Sony doesn't force an update. If that happens, I'll just disconnect the PS3 from the network (or prevent it from talking to Sony).

Sorry but you do not get it It's the same as with the PSP, newer games that will come will require the latest firmware post the current one.

So wether you like it or not you have to get this stupid FW sooner or later

[som99]

No, I have a choice. I can either buy the game for a different platform, or I can not buy the game at all. I'll then write a short, friendly letter to Sony explaining why I didn't buy the game.

There is the problem We who do not want the FW update will be forced to buy the game/s for a diffrerent platform or we can just ignore the game, and that's not right at all

Also they can never force us to preform a FW update since we have to accept the  license agreement.

But still I do not like this a tiny bit, because I do not wan't to buy another console just for a game and I do not want to miss PS3 exclusive titles, so I hope there will be a way around this.

[som99]

You can rest easy now: Geohot on the case...
http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/04/08/0439202/Geohot-Brings-Other-OS-Support-To-PS3-With-Custom-Firmware?art_pos=6

I know he is but the way Sony is handeling this impiles on how they will shit on us customers in the future with their way to solve problems.

They could just improve the FW to patch up the other OS functionallity to fix this but they took the easy way out and now with this who knows what meassures they will take in the future?

So we just have to use custom FWs in the furure and I did now want to go that road, but what choise do I have now when I use my PS3 alot for linux and cell programming?

Edit: well other then custom FWs I have to abandon the PS3 and go back to ARM architecture.

[som99]

PS3 Linux is quite restricted and not that amazing to be honest....once the novelty wears off you will go and use a proper computer costing a couple of hundred smackers soon enough I bet.

I have a computer that I have invested over 5000$ on last year, this do not mean I will use it instead of the PS3, I got my computer rigged with Linux yes BUT I want linux on my PS3 just because I want to code for the Cell architecture.

No one buys  a PS3 to replace their main computer.

It's all in the thrill to learn to code for the PS3.

[som99]

Its interesting the number of times Sony, PS3 AND Microsoft and XBOX are mentioned in this thread, yet both platforms are not leading either the home or portable console markets.  LOL!

FWIW, Wii is great:  enough superb Wii exclusive games, innovative control system, can play some cracking Gamecube games that I own, I can download some of the best-in-genre from the 8-bit, 16 bit and 32 bit console generations, plus homebrew.  And 480p with component cables looks good enough to me, and makes the older games look better than on the original consoles. For me its gameplay that matters anyway, but I've seen some Wii games running in Dolphin at 720p, and the game textures look every bit as good as PS3 and XBOX, so its a hardware limitation of the Wii, not a software one. If Nintendo brought out a 720p version of the Wii, all the graphics whores would jump on board and kill off both Sony and MS.

First off PS3 is more then a gaming machine, it's a great multimedia device, I can stream any movie format from my PC trough the network directly to my PS3.

Secondly, I would never ever buy a WII, a hardcore gamer cant sit and flap his arms all day long.

Third, why would I buy a machine that has the same specs as a GC that is from 2001 and has nowhere near the graphics of either PS3 or 360?

Fourth, I can watch Blue ray on my PS3.

Also we where talking about sony and using Microsofts 360 as a alternative, ut the WII is nothing Like the PS3 so how could we mention it? Yes you can play alot of games on the WII with controllers, but then I rather compare it to the PS2.