Raspberry PI

[bloodline]

Then the storage alone will probably have surpassed the entire Efika MX system in price...

Lol... No more than putting the same thing on an   moot point anyway, as I want to run AROS on my Raspberry Pi.

[Tripitaka]

...and suddenly it isn't $35 anymore, and with 8GB storage, power supply and cables on top, it's crawling up in Efika MX price range (but not in performance, features and usability). Many a little makes a mickle...

But I have spare cables, external drives etc..  Your point is fair however.
TBH I like the Efika MX too. Maybe Genesi should have sold the MX Mobo as a bare mobo.

[Tripitaka]

Or you could wait for my case for the raspi and support an Amigan

As I'm damn sure I'll be waiting for the Pi itself I see no reason why not.
Although I am getting tempted to buy a 3D printer ....

[KimmoK]

It seems Rasberry is around the minimum specs of AROS HW:
"Ideally around 700Mhz and above with 256MB of memory is recommended for desktops and around 1GHz and 256MB for laptops/notebooks/netbooks."

But from my experience, a HW like 1Ghz Celeron is a bit too slow.

[TheDaddy]

As I'm damn sure I'll be waiting for the Pi itself I see no reason why not.
Although I am getting tempted to buy a 3D printer ....

Cool, thanks!
How much are 3D printers?

[vidarh]

It seems Rasberry is around the minimum specs of AROS HW:
"Ideally around 700Mhz and above with 256MB of memory is recommended for desktops and around 1GHz and 256MB for laptops/notebooks/netbooks."

But from my experience, a HW like 1Ghz Celeron is a bit too slow.

Since it runs even on M68k, I think that depends a lot on how you set it up.... The first tip regarding AROS performance on slower hardware is to turn off Decoration (you get the 3.x look), as enabling decoration makes it dramatically slower.

[bloodline]

Since it runs even on M68k, I think that depends a lot on how you set it up.... The first tip regarding AROS performance on slower hardware is to turn off Decoration (you get the 3.x look), as enabling decoration makes it dramatically slower.

The first thing I do after installing AROS is kill off decoration! If I want fancy window boarders I'll use MacOSX or WinXP in fisherprice mode

[commodorejohn]

Problems *will* arise however, if you want something close to what could be called a full, usable desktop environment, there is no magic way of circumventing missing HW resources.

Well, there's always writing tighter code, but the Linux folks don't really seem to be interested in that anymore...

WinXP in fisherprice mode

:lol: I've always called it "Windows for Toddlers," since it's got bright colors and no sharp corners...good to see someone agrees First thing I turn off on every new XP install...

[Tripitaka]

Cool, thanks!
How much are 3D printers?

Check your PM.

[runequester]

well, Damn Small Linux ran in 50 megs of RAM, and was quite full featured.

[Tripitaka]

640K ought to be enough for anybody!

[commodorejohn]

640K ought to be enough for anybody!

Indeed it ought!

[amigadave]

Also, this:

http://www.techspot.com/news/47178-25-raspberry-pi-twice-as-powerful-as-iphone-4s-gpu-burns-tegra-2.html

Especially to the "Its an underpowered, worthless POS!!!" crowd.

Also, there is no issue running linux in 256 MB.  There is a problem, say, running LibreOffice, a 720P video in Mplayer, TuxRacer,ripping a CD, and playing on armor games in 256MB of memory at once, maybe...

Remember, this 256mb of RAM is shared between the GPU and CPU.  There is zero dedicated VRAM, so you could say that there is 128mb RAM and 128mb VRAM, or if you are running extremely demanding graphics programs at very high resolutions, I suppose it might be possible to use more than half of the available RAM for VRAM and the GPU, which could conceivably leave you with less than 128mb of RAM for the rest of the system and the CPU.

Given the right version of Linux, like others here have suggested, the 256mb of combined RAM might be okay for most of the circumstances and situations, but it is hardly a generous amount of RAM when you consider that it is combined VRAM and CPU RAM.  You would never want a full desktop system with that low amount of RAM, would you?

MorphOS probably only takes up around 40mb to 45mb of RAM when loaded on my Efika (IIRC), which would leave me with approx. 83mb to 88mb of free RAM after it boots up.

If the Linux being used on the Raspberry Pi only uses slightly more RAM to boot up, it will work fine in most circumstances.  Remember, one of the heavily advertised points of the Raspberry Pi, is that it can palyback 1080p video content, so I am sure more than a few people are buying it with that in mind and want to use those great video playback capabilities, which will no doubt use a big chunk of that shared 256mb of RAM.

[TheBilgeRat]

Remember, this 256mb of RAM is shared between the GPU and CPU.  There is zero dedicated VRAM, so you could say that there is 128mb RAM and 128mb VRAM, or if you are running extremely demanding graphics programs at very high resolutions, I suppose it might be possible to use more than half of the available RAM for VRAM and the GPU, which could conceivably leave you with less than 128mb of RAM for the rest of the system and the CPU.

Given the right version of Linux, like others here have suggested, the 256mb of combined RAM might be okay for most of the circumstances and situations, but it is hardly a generous amount of RAM when you consider that it is combined VRAM and CPU RAM.  You would never want a full desktop system with that low amount of RAM, would you?

MorphOS probably only takes up around 40mb to 45mb of RAM when loaded on my Efika (IIRC), which would leave me with approx. 83mb to 88mb of free RAM after it boots up.

If the Linux being used on the Raspberry Pi only uses slightly more RAM to boot up, it will work fine in most circumstances.  Remember, one of the heavily advertised points of the Raspberry Pi, is that it can palyback 1080p video content, so I am sure more than a few people are buying it with that in mind and want to use those great video playback capabilities, which will no doubt use a big chunk of that shared 256mb of RAM.

Lots of links and video out there showing what it can or can't do.  I'm tired of posting links.  Show me an equivalent anything for 35 dollars.  Drop the bull**** about keyboard/mouse/monitor.  RTFM on ArchLinuxARM, FedoraARM, and DebianARM as to what is in the repos and what isn't.

[bloodline]

So you could say, the Raspberry Pi has 256meg Chip Ram!!! How awesome is that

[Bif]

Wow, looks like they are way short on supply to meet demand. I think they should raise the price to $200 to lower demand so that nobody has to endure horrible waits.