Indivision AGA 4000 / CD32

[Pyromania]

Does it use up a lot of ChipRAM or any ChipRAM? That would not be good for Video Toaster 4000 systems if it did.

[NovaCoder]

Pyromania wrote:
Does it use up a lot of ChipRAM or any ChipRAM? That would not be good for Video Toaster 4000 systems if it did.

What is a lot?  The Indivision itself doesn't use any chipram.   HighGFX on my system running at 1024x768 with 64 colors leaves about 1.3 mb free on startup (OS 3.9, no background picture).

[MaDDuck]

Very good point!
Does it use any more chipRAM than an AGA Amiga would?

I am VERY hyped about this item. I'd LOVE to put one in my CD32.

Will it center PAL/NTSC games on the screen correctly??

[Tension]

Alas, I will probably not be able to afford this product.  But I must say a big "Respect" to Jens for continuing to devote his time to such products.

It is good to see this stuff on sale, despite the fact that i`ll probably never own one.

I have to start doing the lottety.

[yssing]

Jens you rock big time...

[LoadWB]

Odd screen aspects?  Has anyone started working with the wide screen LCD monitors yet?

[Ratte]

some details about the "xtreme-mode"

1280x1024 with 8 bitplanes needs 1,3 mb chipmem
refrashrate is BELOW 60hz (thats the reason for the name)
refreshrate on indi should be arround 50-54 hz
FOR XTREME YOU NEED A MONITOR/LCD, THAT IS ABLE TO DISPLAY PAL WITH 1.00 SCANRATE (50Hz)!!!

it needs a lot of memory
it is damm slow (with many colors)
it is a AGA-screenmode

but 1280x1024 in ham8 is fantastic

[Schoenfeld]

Neither the A4000D/CD32 version, nor the A1200 version will fir in an A4000T.

Kolla, the black borders are an artefact of your flatscreen. Indivision cannot do very much about it, other than trying to move away from the standards, which confuses most monitors (as you're writing, your monitor displays the "out of range" message).
If you're having difficulties displaying Super72, please install the latest update. Only the very first revision that was delivered in summer of 2008 had problems with Super72. All Indivision AGA models can be flashed with the latest updates, it's re-configurable hardware, so hardware updates are possible by installing a new flash version.

Switching between "always over 60Hz" and "legacy flickerfixer type 49.9Hz mode" is done with the scanrate: Rate 1.00 is the legacy mode and scanrate 1.25 is the new "always over 60Hz" mode. Of course, this only means "always over 60Hz" if you're displaying a standard Amiga mode. The HighGFX modes almost all require the 1.25 scanrate setting and not always output 60+Hz.

Chipram usage with Indivision is equal to chipram usage without. However, with flicker-free 24-bit display in all modes, it's tempting to choose a mode that eats more chipmem. It's like a ride in a sports car: You're tempted to use just a little more gas than you'd do in an economy car :-)

About odd screen aspects, did anyone notice Ratte's HD720 mode?

Jens

[Crumb]

@Darrin & easy_john

With some CGX/P96 switches (DisplayChain IIRC) you can remove AmigaOS signal, well, not completely, but I think it's different than when the custom chips are showing a screen.

Or perhaps a small software patch could be developed that checks the front screen and switches to the gfx card if the screen is a CGX/P96 one.

[Pyromania]

Sounds like an awesome product Jens, bummer it does not work in the A4000T. It's the ultimate Amiga VT4000/Flyer Amiga system.

[Cammy]

This is such great news for CD32 owners from all around the world.

FINALLY NTSC CD32 owners should be able to play all those PAL games on their VGA monitors/LCD TVs no sweat! No more black & white displays or cut off screens. And there are hundreds, or possibly THOUSANDS of these BRAND NEW CD32s still sitting in Hong Kong and China waiting to be sold.

Now all we need is a 8MB/RTC/IDE-CF/Ethernet card for the CD32, and using an A4000 keyboard (or PC keyboard adapter) you'd have a fully fledged Amiga computer capable of surfing the web. Imagine chatting to fellow Amigans on IRC, browsing the web, checking email, MSN, FTP, online games like Dynamite on a CD32!

I can't wait for the new HighGFX driver for 1280x1024, I have an LCD monitor and a CRT monitor that both support this resolution, and since 16 colours is plenty for Workbench and all the apps I run, I don't think I'd run out of ChipRAM that fast, especially when combined with FBlit, which seems to work most of the time with HighGFX, but sometimes begins to spasm.

ALSO... I have opened my CD32 up and the very best place to mount the VGA port would be in the empty space next to the keyboard/serial port. There is a big empty section inside the case in front of the motherboard which provies plenty of clearance for the ribbon cable, and there's no metal blocking the way for you to cut a hole in the plastic on the side of the bottom half of the case and mounting the new port!

I already have a CD32 with a SX32, 8MB RAM, IDE-CF adapter and 4GB CF card, but I wish I had Ethernet too, then I wouldn't have to use the serial cable for networking and going on the net (slow). It's gonna rock when I get my CD32 Indivision though!

[Ratte]

@kolla:
looks like your super72 800x600 screenmode like this?
the first firmware works with the wb3.0 drivers (but these drivers are different to 3.1-3.9 drivers)
so better use wb3.1/3.5/3.9 drivers and actual firmware for the indivision


xtreme:

xtreme modes with 640x256/640x512 are also nice.
your lcd doesn´t need to autoscal the resolution ...
you will get a crystalclear (blocky / non-blurred) 640x512 picture on a 1280x1024 lcd.

[icbrkr]

No 4000T? Bummer.  I was hoping to use my external SD/FF on my A600 and this on a 4000T.  Ah well.

[Rebel-CD32]

I bought my Indivision from AmigaKit at Christmas time, and it has this problem with Super72 as well. I hadn't updated the firmware because I assumed the latest firmware was included on all new models. I guess AmigaKit sent me an old one. I just tried to load the Flash tool then, but it "Can't Open Font!". SnoopDOS doesn't tell me which font it wants either. I'll have to look into it further.

Anyway, awesome news about the CD32/A4000 version. I'd love one myself when I can afford it.

[Pyromania]

Your right about it being awesome news for CD32 fans Cammy. We will get one for our CD32.

[whiteb]

I wonder how this would work for me and my LCD monitor.

I have found that my Minimig will only display properly on it, using the NTSC core, but PAL would display for like 30 seconds before the monitor shut down with 'Bad Sync' error's.

I know this is not a minimig thread, but i wonder how the monitor will cope with an A4000D signal with the indivision ?

Monitor Sync sheet