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Re: Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS
« on: July 18, 2012, 12:29:24 PM »
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Is that in the pipeline?


I don't think so, Isochronous USB transfers are not planned at all so that rules out most USB soundcards
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Re: Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 04:16:01 PM »
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That's a er... "brave" decision.

I guess there are not enough resources. At least it was not planned some years ago, perhaps plans change if there´s enough demand.

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If I can run a USB sound card on my Amiga 4000 with OS 3.9 or OS 4 (via Poseidon), why can't MorphOS do it?

Have you ever tried running MorphOS 1.4.5 on your 4000? MorphOS will run your USB soundcard (or webcam) perfectly, the problem is USB PCI driver, not MorphOS. Deneb is the only card for amiga systems with drivers that include isochronous transfers support (and it works perfectly on MorphOS).
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Re: Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 10:44:34 PM »
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I wanted to, actually, but it never supported my Prometheus, so I couldn't.

Prometheus support was unfinished, rtl8029 worked but never got voodoo3 working with it.

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My point wasn't that AOS 4 was better than MOS - it's not, it's the same, here - but that MOS (and AOS) are actually behind OS 3 - at least when you include third party software.

You mean Deneb drivers are more advanced than PCI drivers because the former drivers support Isochronous transfers.

It´s not a problem of the OS/USB stack but of the usb drivers. In case you don´t remember it Poseidon is part of MorphOS and you can use Deneb on MorphOS (with native Poseidon PPC).

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It's a bit crazy that the only Amiga to be able to do isochronous connections is the 20 year-old A3000/A4000, especially when USB is by far the standard interface these days.

Agreed. It´s a pity isochronous transfers are not higher in the "to do list" but what would you delay (or have delayed) to get isochronous transfers sooner... powerbook support? wifi support? R300 support? I guess there are quite important things in the pipeline that nobody would want to delay to get webcams/usb audio cards sooner.

Another important problem is that AHI should be updated or replaced to accept more audio inputs.
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Re: Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 08:45:07 AM »
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Oh, look what OS 4 users get...

http://aminet.net/package/driver/other/usbmidi

I bet that has something to do with something. They even got a native port of the library. Sighh...


You don't need that port as Poseidon supports MIDI devices through camdusbmidi.class (or simplemidi.class)
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Re: Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 09:07:23 AM »
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@Crumb, can you tell me know I can get this to work with HD-Rec.? I can not seem to get it to respond to it.

Also you can see a photo of how Trident is viewing my MIDI device here:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?wn87tsr2bwnn260#


I'm afraid I don't know much about music software :-/ I can see there are 2 interfaces, one named "audio control" that hasn't any class binded so perhaps that controls the rest of your midi adaptor. I don't know if another midi adapter may give you better results. Perhaps you could ask Chris Hodges to know what midi equipment does he use.
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Re: Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 08:19:48 AM »
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Some people don't want a behemoth of a tower on their desk, esp one that the OS only uses 1 core of.


Are you talking about x1000?
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Re: Alas, I come to complain about MorphOS
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 04:19:34 PM »
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Or bought an Amiga to begin with.


recording 16bit sound with a classic is expensive
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