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FreeBSD, NetBSD, Wasabi on A1/Pegasos
« on: March 26, 2004, 12:51:25 PM »
Hello
Several years ago, Wasabi, NetBSD and FreeBSD plan to port their version of BSD to MAI Chipset (either A1 or Pegasos).
At that moment Bplan offer free boards for certified developers.
The only reply is: someone already ported BSD to Pegasos. There is no need for other versions of BSD.
Because OpenBSD for Pegasos is dropped, is it possible for other teams to port other version of BSD to A1/Pegasos?
Will the BSD team get all the required documents?
It it strange that BPLAN/GENESI cannot get documents for its developers from the chipset vendor.
Why chipset companies are against open source?
Which chipset vendor is more friendly to opensource groups? (MAI Logic or Marvel)
Thank's.
 

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Re: FreeBSD, NetBSD, Wasabi on A1/Pegasos
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2004, 02:38:36 PM »
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asian1 wrote:
Hello
Several years ago, Wasabi, NetBSD and FreeBSD plan to port their version of BSD to MAI Chipset (either A1 or Pegasos).
At that moment Bplan offer free boards for certified developers.


Wasabi is NetBSD.  (From a customer perspective, Wasabi exists for two reasons; either they're the people you pay to get NetBSD released on a platform quick, or they're the people you pay to get NetBSD ported without a public release.*)

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The only reply is: someone already ported BSD to Pegasos. There is no need for other versions of BSD.


You can never have too much BSD. ;-)

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Because OpenBSD for Pegasos is dropped, is it possible for other teams to port other version of BSD to A1/Pegasos?


Of course.  There's nothing to block anyone from picking up the OpenBSD code, either.  But good luck getting the platform back into OpenBSD CVS without resolving present issues.

You also have to deal with the question of "Who wants to work on a platform that's proved 'rude?'" ... But if Genesi can learn something, come back to the table, and admit they f'd up, there's still a little hope left.

See, paying is extra-nice (and excellent PR, when it can be done; $10k for OpenBSD is certainly money better spent than $10k for AmigaDE right now).  Without payment, people have still hacked for Dreamcast, XBox, and even Mac.  

It takes guts to stand up and say "Look, we can't afford this, but we'd appreciate the effort and give back if we succeed," but if you don't say it, people are going to assume you can afford it.  And, um, if you let them assume that to the point of promising a check... :python:

(That said, you just can't get into clusterf***s of Amigan scale without all the specifics of Genesi's -- or AInc's -- situations.)

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Will the BSD team get all the required documents?


Not if the chipset vendors continue refusing to release them.

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It it strange that BPLAN/GENESI cannot get documents for its developers from the chipset vendor.


Going by Rahn, Thendic (and in this case, Thendic != Genesi) had them, but couldn't transfer them... or really go handing out sources equivalent to a transfer of documentation... without violating their NDA.

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Why chipset companies are against open source?


Because they're managed by dangerous idiots, apparently.

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Which chipset vendor is more friendly to opensource groups? (MAI Logic or Marvel)
Thank's.


Not one or the other?

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*Not every company wants their sources opened; BSD gives them the freedom to play proprietary, though it rarely makes sense.