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Title: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Piru on October 15, 2010, 10:29:54 AM
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5403/x1000goodonpaper.jpg)
AmigaOne X1000
Looking good on paper
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: jj on October 15, 2010, 10:43:31 AM
:lol::roflmao::lol::roflmao:
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: ElPolloDiabl on October 15, 2010, 10:43:55 AM
What 1800 buys you nowadays.:roflmao:
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: VingtTrois on October 15, 2010, 10:50:00 AM
I think that removing the two blue light tubes, the price drop perhaps of at least 500.00 EUR  :lol:
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: krashan on October 15, 2010, 10:50:15 AM
AmigaOne X-1000 - stimulates your imagination.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Gulliver on October 15, 2010, 01:44:25 PM
Quote from: Krashan;584831
AmigaOne X-1000 - stimulates your imagination.


and also stimulates your debt!
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: coldfish on October 15, 2010, 01:53:22 PM
New meaning to printed circuit board. Fnarr fnarr!
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: jorkany on October 15, 2010, 02:23:16 PM
Seems like a good time for this:


(http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/meh.ro4687.jpg)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: koaftder on October 15, 2010, 02:50:26 PM
This is hardcore epic fail. A million Picard face palms. Is this all they had for show?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Hattig on October 15, 2010, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: koaftder;584850
This is hardcore epic fail. A million Picard face palms. Is this all they had for show?


As the picture is on the near side of the case,and there are cables going underneath it, I presume the real hardware is underneath, and they're (for whatever reason) not willing to show it. It's all a bit silly really.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tone007 on October 15, 2010, 03:00:38 PM
(http://jungle.net/tone/tramiel.gif)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Piru on October 15, 2010, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Hattig;584852
As the picture is on the near side of the case,and there are cables going underneath it, I presume the real hardware is underneath, and they're (for whatever reason) not willing to show it. It's all a bit silly really.

I don't think there's anything underneath it. The picture appears to be at the bottom of the case and the regular mounting screws are well visible:
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/655/x1000papermockup2b.jpg)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Hattig on October 15, 2010, 03:35:38 PM
Oh yeah, was getting a false sense of perspective from the monitor behind.

How lame.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Colani1200 on October 15, 2010, 04:18:29 PM
OMG...

At first sight I thought "man, this looks badly nineties indeed". Took really long until I actually discovered what that "paper" stuff meant. :lol:
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: wawrzon on October 15, 2010, 04:23:25 PM
so where does this "photo" actually come from? a genuine aeon advert or am i missing something? i hope piru hasnt had to forge it himself?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Varthall on October 15, 2010, 04:28:15 PM
I like this picture! Where has it been shot?

P.S. has anybody noticed the "Be quiet!" words engraved on the power supply? :)

Varthall
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Kronos on October 15, 2010, 04:35:22 PM
No :

http://www.be-quiet.net
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: persia on October 15, 2010, 04:54:01 PM
Perhaps Xerox is getting back into the computer world?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: TheGoose on October 15, 2010, 05:00:48 PM
"Power X" ???

It's nice they are using some "Individual Computers" components. That's a good selling point.

:lol:
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Homer on October 15, 2010, 05:03:29 PM
Looks like it will work well with virtual memory, and virtual drives :roflmao:
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: A1260 on October 15, 2010, 05:15:30 PM
paper hw! the x1000 sure is a joke :lol:
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: persia on October 15, 2010, 05:20:12 PM
Beta version of the X2000!

(http://www.epilepsysupport.org.uk/Images/MYEpilepsypics/computer_drawing_by_pupilsmall.gif)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: cv643d on October 15, 2010, 05:26:21 PM
Well it would be 100 times more funny if the die hard OS4 amiga-talibans would enjoy this joke too, but I guess jews (MOS) and Muslims (OS4) will never get a long in the land of Israel (Amigaland) :)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: haywirepc on October 15, 2010, 05:26:30 PM
Epic failure!
 
At least they can save on shipping by shipping motherboards like this.
 
Is it still due out christmas time, or have they backpedaled the release again due to
a paper shortage?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: TheGoose on October 15, 2010, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: cv643d;584887
Well it would be 100 times more funny if the die hard OS4 amiga-talibans would enjoy this joke too, but I guess jews (MOS) and Muslims (OS4) will never get a long in the land of Israel (Amigaland) :)


Let's not leave out the Atheist 68Kers
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: wawrzon on October 15, 2010, 05:52:58 PM
and what ere aros people? gnostics?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tone007 on October 15, 2010, 06:01:57 PM
Satanists!

..kidding.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: wawrzon on October 15, 2010, 06:09:36 PM
aww cool.. thats not so far apart anyway (if its done right)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: redrumloa on October 15, 2010, 06:11:30 PM
Where was this picture taken? A show? Please tell me this was not A-Eon's doing!
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Derfs on October 15, 2010, 06:16:20 PM
Quote from: redrumloa;584897
Where was this picture taken? A show? Please tell me this was not A-Eon's doing!


why introduce facts when inuendo, and leaving it unanswered, will spread rumours like wildfire.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Piru on October 15, 2010, 06:26:00 PM
Quote from: redrumloa;584897
Where was this picture taken? A show?

I believe it's from MAIN #5 party (http://www.mainparty.net/).
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: TheGoose on October 15, 2010, 07:03:21 PM
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-pictures-cat-fixes-your-computer.jpg)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Manu on October 15, 2010, 07:12:30 PM
@TheGoose

Isn't that the AROS kitten ?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: mpiva on October 15, 2010, 08:08:35 PM
@ Piru

  What is the SOURCE of this photo.  I went to mainparty.net and I couldn't find the photo anywhere, neither can I find any mention of Aeon, TreverD, X1000, AmigaOne, or AmigaOS4.  Where's the evidence that this was an official Aeon demonstration.  At best, I'd say it's just some over zealous Amiga fan trying to unofficially advertise the X1000, at worst it could be you (though I doubt it) taking a picture in his basement intentially trying to make a mockery of the X1000.

  At the VERY LEAST, you need to give proper references to your wild claims/photos.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: the_leander on October 15, 2010, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: mpiva;584913

Where's the evidence that this was an official Aeon demonstration.


Where's yours that Piru ever said or implied it?

Quote from: mpiva;584913

  At best, I'd say it's just some over zealous Amiga fan trying to unofficially advertise the X1000, at worst it could be you (though I doubt it) taking a picture in his basement intentially trying to make a mockery of the X1000.


Newsflash: The X1000 needs no help at all to be shown up as a joke.

Quote from: mpiva;584913

  At the VERY LEAST, you need to give proper references to your wild claims/photos.


You need to take a serious step back.

Piru so far as I can see in this thread has made no such claims whatsoever.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: commodorejohn on October 15, 2010, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: mpiva;584913
At best, I'd say it's just some over zealous Amiga fan trying to unofficially advertise the X1000, at worst it could be you (though I doubt it) taking a picture in his basement intentially trying to make a mockery of the X1000.
Feh, at $2300 USD for a 2GHz computer, it mocks itself.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: persia on October 15, 2010, 08:19:32 PM
I believe the word you're looking for is "blasphemy"

Quote from: mpiva;584913
@ Piru

  What is the SOURCE of this photo.  I went to mainparty.net and I couldn't find the photo anywhere, neither can I find any mention of Aeon, TreverD, X1000, AmigaOne, or AmigaOS4.  Where's the evidence that this was an official Aeon demonstration.  At best, I'd say it's just some over zealous Amiga fan trying to unofficially advertise the X1000, at worst it could be you (though I doubt it) taking a picture in his basement intentially trying to make a mockery of the X1000.

  At the VERY LEAST, you need to give proper references to your wild claims/photos.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: dammy on October 15, 2010, 08:24:47 PM
Quote from: Derf;584898
why introduce facts when inuendo, and leaving it unanswered, will spread rumours like wildfire.


Because it's believable after the photoshop disaster?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: rebraist on October 15, 2010, 08:34:06 PM
the two photos (they're clearly two) are taken from slightly different point of view. They could be taken even in two different moments. It's evident the difference in light (perhaps it could be the flash in the first to make a more complete tonal composition).
What it's not so obvious is that i wouldn't bet for sure that under paper there's nothing.
The second photo, is not in the same perspective so it can be used as a direct confrontation.
What does that machine mean?
The only one that can say this is the people who's taken the photos.
I think it'a convenction: in the first photo there's a badge on the case.
The hardpaper box on the table is linked to silicon sonic catweasel (the same box i have for catweasel). Does anyone know if in any convenction aeon used catweasel for x1000?
I'm an aros supporter so...
If x1000 isn't a rocket, apple machines are really really sad machines... the newest x86.
the old ppc ones are really really worse.
At least mr dickinson has two good things:
1) put his own face and money in what he believes.
2) he has the same surname as the iron maiden singer.
Up the irons.
Que viva aros.. er.. amiga!!
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: jorkany on October 15, 2010, 08:49:13 PM
Quote from: mpiva;584913
Where's the evidence that this was an official Aeon demonstration.  At best, I'd say it's just some over zealous Amiga fan trying to unofficially advertise the X1000, at worst it could be you (though I doubt it) taking a picture in his basement intentially trying to make a mockery of the X1000.

Or maybe it's the beta program?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: xeron on October 15, 2010, 09:37:03 PM
I seriously doubt the faked X1000 in the picture is anything to do with A-EON. They have already shown the real deal actually running at the Vintage Computer Festival. They don't need to fake it.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Gulliver on October 15, 2010, 09:51:37 PM
Quote from: xeron;584934
I seriously doubt the faked X1000 in the picture is anything to do with A-EON. They have already shown the real deal actually running at the Vintage Computer Festival. They don't need to fake it.

Well not really, they have provided all of us with fake photos of the thing.

Have you seen the fake fascia with the boing ball on it? The actual fascia is black and flat, with no engravings whatsoever.

http://regmedia.co.uk/2010/06/21/amiga1000x.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_shak2B2Kftw/TIS7nVDO86I/AAAAAAAABxg/e8k5bknCH78/s1600/X1000_case.jpg

And I forgot to mention the sticker!!! LOL
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: kolla on October 15, 2010, 10:01:18 PM
And the ones they have shown running have not been open so one could see what's inside, who knows, maybe a peg2 in there? :)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Gulliver on October 15, 2010, 10:16:50 PM
Maybe it is an x86 running MPlayer on Aros! ;)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: mpiva on October 15, 2010, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: the_leander;584915
Where's yours that Piru ever said or implied it?


 Well, I can easily counter that by asking you, "Where's your proof that I ever claimed that Piru made such a claim?"  I simply asked a question; it could have even been rhetorical. But, for the record, I DO claim that Piru was implying it. Asking me to prove something's that's implied is nonsensical and you should know that. You might as well ask me to prove that it's possible to prove things.

  However, the fact that (so far) the vast majority of people responding to this thread seem to be assuming the very thing I claim Piru is implying speaks volumes.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: the_leander on October 15, 2010, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: mpiva;584942
I DO claim that Piru was implying it.


DOX OR GTFO.

Quote from: mpiva;584942

Asking me to prove something's that's implied is nonsensical


Actually, it should be fairly easy to show how you came to your conclusion if there is even the slightest piece of validity to it.

Quote from: mpiva;584942
However, the fact that (so far) the vast majority of people responding to this thread seem to be assuming the very thing I claim Piru is implying speaks volumes.


There you go again, flailing away. The vast majority have done no such thing. They've just had a laugh at something that, on the face of it "official" or otherwise has great comedic value. Very few have made any comment on the matter beyond that.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: wawrzon on October 15, 2010, 10:51:13 PM
to be honest it really looks like piru is implaying somthing. not that i care.

edit: a too nasty typo.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: desiv on October 15, 2010, 11:01:58 PM
I'm not sure why you're all complaigning..  I think it's a great idea!!

Me:  "Support?  My X1000 Motherboard isn't working.."
Support: "Don't worry, we'll send over another right now.  What's your FAX number?"

;-)

desiv
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tone007 on October 15, 2010, 11:04:23 PM
Sounds like someone mistook their own ASSuming for someone else's implying!
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: wawrzon on October 15, 2010, 11:27:15 PM
@tone007: hey, c'mon, no need to appologise, i thought the same all on my own.
@desiv: or better:
support: dont worry, all you need to do is to take your ballpen and draw two missing wires we have forgotten of. reminds me of some polish evening kids cartoon

edit: but thinking again, he wasnt implying nothing, really. now i see.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tone007 on October 15, 2010, 11:29:56 PM
Quote from: wawrzon;584962
herp


Keep your raisins to yourself.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Linde on October 15, 2010, 11:45:35 PM
I chuckled, and the mpiva came in and made it a full laugh.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: kickstart on October 15, 2010, 11:53:55 PM
Yeah! At least paper is more than vapour.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: A1260 on October 16, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
Quote from: kickstart;584971
Yeah! At least paper is more than vapour.


but still paper is as useless as vapour when it come to computing :-)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Vlabguy1 on October 16, 2010, 01:38:04 AM
what an a-- backwards place for the power supply.. It won't do much good at getting the heat
out of the case.....



Quote from: Piru;584825
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5403/x1000goodonpaper.jpg)
AmigaOne X1000
Looking good on paper
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tone007 on October 16, 2010, 02:07:40 AM
Hey, this is about the only way the X1000 could look good on paper.  (Hope someone didn't beat me to that one.)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2010, 02:47:31 AM
Quote from: dammy;584920
Because it's believable after the photoshop disaster?


Or at least it might have been until the real systems were shown at the VCF.

Your posts often make you look as delusional as our friend Thierry.

Quote from: kolla;584937
And the ones they have shown running have not been open so one could see what's inside, who knows, maybe a peg2 in there? :)


Check your facts before making yourself look ignorant.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Nlandas on October 16, 2010, 03:30:52 AM
Can I send my payment in the same form? If so I'm sure I can afford one soon enough. ;^D
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: orb85750 on October 16, 2010, 04:43:26 AM
Haven't you guys heard about the latest technology, where you can print out fully functional motherboards on your inkjet printer?  Get with the times.  Only AmigaOne makes it possible.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: B00tDisk on October 16, 2010, 04:53:25 AM
Quote from: orb85750;585020
Haven't you guys heard about the latest technology, where you can print out fully functional motherboards on your inkjet printer?  Get with the times.  Only AmigaOne makes it possible.

Did someone say Only Amiga? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxfrWnLI-dc)

:D :D :D
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: dammy on October 16, 2010, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: Rob;585006
Or at least it might have been until the real systems were shown at the VCF.


I think your going off half cocked on this one.   FWIR, no one on this thread has said there are no A1X1K's mobos.  We all have see and heard the reviews from Trevor's public showing,  we know there is a real mobo that work, at least to some degree.  Issue with the photo put into a computer case is reasonable and just.  It was poor judgement, it cheapens the A1X1K into nearly joke status.  If anything, you should be taking issue with whomever put this on display and not us here on AO who are commenting on it.  

So after the disaster of a Photoshop'd A1X1K mobo in a case, it's highly believable that someone, perhaps from Hyperion, would have put this display together.

Quote
Your posts often make you look as delusional as our friend Thierry.


Your getting defensive and reading way too much in to this.  But if that is what floats your boat, enjoy!
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2010, 12:50:41 PM
Quote from: dammy;585035
I think your going off half cocked on this one.   FWIR, no one on this thread has said there are no A1X1K's mobos.  We all have see and heard the reviews from Trevor's public showing,  we know there is a real mobo that work, at least to some degree.  Issue with the photo put into a computer case is reasonable and just.  It was poor judgement, it cheapens the A1X1K into nearly joke status.  If anything, you should be taking issue with whomever put this on display and not us here on AO who are commenting on it.


Whoever made the card mock up isn't the making unqualified comments here or veering off into realms of fantasy, I'm sure it was slightly amusing for show attendees.

Quote
So after the disaster of a Photoshop'd A1X1K mobo in a case, it's highly believable that someone, perhaps from Hyperion, would have put this display together.


Like I said it might have been for a short period of time, but not now.  The joke came a little too late.

 
Quote
Your getting defensive and reading way too much in to this.  But if that is what floats your boat, enjoy!


Weren't you the one saying earlier this year that Hyperion were going to branch OS4 and the X1000 would run a 64-bit version that would be incompatible with the existing OS4.

Aren't you the one currently trying to invent some sort animosity between OS4 users/fans and Natami.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: A1260 on October 16, 2010, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: Vlabguy1;584991
what an a-- backwards place for the power supply.. It won't do much good at getting the heat out of the case.....


and all the dust will fall to the bottom, lets shut this case and have it run 24/7 for a year without opening the case... if it havent stoped working or your house burnt down its a miracle. it is idiotic to place the power supply in the bottom of the case, period.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: stevieu on October 16, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: A1260;585063
and all the dust will fall to the bottom, lets shut this case and have it run 24/7 for a year without opening the case... if it havent stoped working or your house burnt down its a miracle. it is idiotic to place the power supply in the bottom of the case, period.


Many modern tower cases now house the PSU at the bottom of the case (with a dust filter). It is not the PSU's task to remove heat from the tower, but that is the task of the exhaust fans/radiators. There's much logic in that.

Really.

The Corsair Obsidian, (http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1036/corsair_installed_complete.jpg) for example.

Or the Fractal Design R2. (http://www.fractal-design.com/img_prod/inner_system.jpg)

(or perhaps, I'm just missing all the 'witty sarcasm' in this thread). :)

Steve
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Karlos on October 16, 2010, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: A1260;585063
and all the dust will fall to the bottom, lets shut this case and have it run 24/7 for a year without opening the case... if it havent stoped working or your house burnt down its a miracle. it is idiotic to place the power supply in the bottom of the case, period.

What, you mean like the CoolerMaster Cosmos-S case, where the PSU is at the bottom, pulling cold air through a dust filter, venting it out the back and not at all exposed to dust from inside the case itself?

see here (http://www.overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2008/02/23175358129l.jpg)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: lsmart on October 16, 2010, 02:23:27 PM
Quote from: Rob;585059
Aren't you the one currently trying to invent some sort animosity between OS4 users/fans and Natami.


Aren´t we the ones feeding the trolls by even commenting on lame attempts of ridicule like this whole thread?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: dammy on October 16, 2010, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: Rob;585059
Whoever made the card mock up isn't the making unqualified comments here or veering off into realms of fantasy, I'm sure it was slightly amusing for show attendees.


I doubt that someone did it as a gag, looks like too much effort went into it.

Quote
Like I said it might have been for a short period of time, but not now.  The joke came a little too late.


I seriously doubt anyone that would be making a joke about it would go to that much trouble.  There are already too much to joke about it let alone making a prop for S&Gs.


Quote
Weren't you the one saying earlier this year that Hyperion were going to branch OS4 and the X1000 would run a 64-bit version that would be incompatible with the existing OS4.


I was indeed sadly incorrect after reading Hyperion's release statements which they were trumpeting it was a 64 bit CPU.  That would have been the best thing possible for OS4 to go 64 bit and make a hard break from 3.1 API so they could use SMP on a 64bit dual core machine.  That might have made OS4 into something that even I would have looked at possibly using as primary OS.  Instead, we get a port of something old that will be AMP at best.  What a shame.

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Aren't you the one currently trying to invent some sort animosity between OS4 users/fans and Natami.


Shame on me for pointing out that Natami project, if they able to release a product before or around the same time A1X1K's release will be a competitor for scarce Amiga buyer's money.  I've heard some estimates Natami will be price in the same level as the A1X1K.  If it's cheaper, so much the better for most of us but that will make it a even bigger competitor to the A1X1K's market.   Natami is not good news for A-EON/Hyperion's marketing plans.  Given cheap Macs, cheap Imicas, cheap ARESOne, Minimig, plus C= Amigas and Natami to be released, it's alot of choices which doesn't mean good times ahead for the most expensive option of the bunch.  I can't help to think it's going to polarize the fragmented Amiga community even more.  If it bothers you I'm voicing my opinion, so sad for you.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Terminills on October 16, 2010, 03:48:24 PM
Quote from: Piru;584825

AmigaOne X1000
Looking good on paper



Just think how energy efficient it will be tho.  I just hope the refresh rate on the etch-a-sketch screen will be decent. :D
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on October 16, 2010, 03:49:22 PM
OMFG how lame isn't that?

But why am I not surprised?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on October 16, 2010, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: dammy;584920
Because it's believable after the photoshop disaster?


(http://i43.tinypic.com/1zdqeex.gif)

A classic!

:)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: jas_mc on October 17, 2010, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: Gulliver;584936
Well not really, they have provided all of us with fake photos of the thing.

Mock-ups and concept art are only really "fake" if they're the stuff of pure fantasy.  I was impressed by how closely the finished X1000 case resembled the original photoshopped image - even down to the positioning and appearance of the engraved boing ball on the front.

I might be wrong here, but I believe it was actually the image they sent to the manufacturer.  An image genuinely involved in the design and production of something is hardly a fake  :)

Quote from: Gulliver;584936
Have you seen the fake fascia with the boing ball on it? The actual fascia is black and flat, with no engravings whatsoever.

Perhaps you'd like to explain this curious optical illusion that was photographed in Switzerland in September then:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc468/jas_mc1/x1000.jpg)

It's been known for ages that the AmigaOne X1000 case would just be a commercial available case with custom engraving.  It's no surprise that the X1000 was first seen in a plain, unadorned version of that case (I'm sure they had more important things to worry about at that stage).  There's enough genuine areas for discussion surrounding the X1000 project and its value without inventing unfounded points of criticism.

Anyway, think you should retract your claim that "The actual fascia is black and flat, with no engravings whatsoever"  ;)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: lsmart on October 17, 2010, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: jas_mc;585259
Perhaps you'd like to explain this curious optical illusion that was photographed in Switzerland in September then

That´s a nice photo. Weren´t the A-EON Boing balls the ones with less squares? Is it fan-art?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Gulliver on October 17, 2010, 02:48:20 PM
Okay, so as of september, it is not flat and has engravings, so what?
It still shows how unprofessional they were by marketing a product with a photoshopped image, and they did it when they didnt even have a real product.

By the way, the part on the front fascia where it says "AmigaOne X1000" still differs from the photoshop marketing one, Just take a look yourself. :)

It still shows they misslead all of us.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: lsmart on October 17, 2010, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: Gulliver;585285
how unprofessional they were by marketing a product with a photoshopped image

Unprofessional? Every big company uses exclusively photoshopped images for advertising. Woppers on the pictures are made from plastic.

Your reality check just bounced. ;)

But whats more interesting: Are there more pictures from that event in Switzerland? Is this the machine of a beta tester, or was A-EON present?

EDIT: Oh, I see it already was mentioned: on Amiga.org (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54159)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Golem!dk on October 17, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
Quote from: lsmart;585288
But whats more interesting: Are there more pictures from that event in Switzerland? Is this the machine of a beta tester, or was A-EON present?


They have a separate beta program for the cases?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: jas_mc on October 17, 2010, 03:19:09 PM
The event was called AmigaZoom (I wasn't in attendance).

I believe A-Eon, ACube, and Hyperion was all represented by a Swiss dealer called Relec.

Here's a thread on Amigaworld that links to more pics:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32420&forum=16#580717

Here's another (probably better) picture of the case:

http://amiga-ng.org/resources/Suisses2010/AmigaZoom/sites/15.htm
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: lsmart on October 19, 2010, 05:14:35 AM
When I was looking through the pictures of µAlchemie 2010 yesterday, I noticed that it looks like the "good on paper" mockup Piru posted an image of and the Relec box with the (sticker?) Boing Ball at the front are the same box.

It looks like Relec created it (much like cell phone mokups that are designed for shop windows) just as a dummy that could sit in the corner and remind of the upcoming new hardware. I imagine they turned on the neon and kept the box closed, so it may have had a somewhat ominous look, if you went past it in half darkness. And if you peeked through the airvents you might spy the words A-EON or Xena on the photographed Mobo.

Mystery solved?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: lsmart on October 19, 2010, 05:42:49 AM
Oh and here are two pictures from different perspectives that show that the mobo-picture is mounted into that same box during the french event:
upfront (http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/MicroAlchimie/sites/42.htm)
open from the side (http://afle.free.fr/Images/MicroAlchimie/sites/4.htm)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Matteus on October 22, 2010, 05:05:18 AM
I don't want a black Amiga, I want a white one with a nice red boing ball on it. :)

Did someone says 64-bit OS? When did M$ come out with their first one? Was it 2003? There's yet to be a 64-bit browser that has a working flash player. 64-bit OS is a joke, unless you run Linux or something.

This CPU draws what? 7-10 Watt? I'd like that in a slim case, not a monster case like the Fractal R2/R3 (think the R2 has been discontinued).
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: the_leander on October 22, 2010, 11:57:07 AM
Quote from: Matteus;586163

Did someone says 64-bit OS? When did M$ come out with their first one? Was it 2003? There's yet to be a 64-bit browser that has a working flash player. 64-bit OS is a joke, unless you run Linux or something.


 Ahem (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/).
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: utri007 on October 22, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
I thought that you allready get your t-shirt?

Allways surprises me how long and how much piru wants to give negative publicity for anything wich is related to Amiga OS and hardware.

Are you saying that there is no X1000 board and x1000 is a hoax, or what is point of this?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: gertsy on October 22, 2010, 01:59:17 PM
Can't believe people would modify a picture for their own purposes....
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: TheGoose on October 22, 2010, 02:07:31 PM
IT'S DARK BIG AND RECTANGULAR, SOOO AWESOMER!

Is this an X1000 too?

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/monolith.jpg)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tone007 on October 22, 2010, 02:34:56 PM
YOH I FOUND A WHOLE FLOCK OF X1000S

(http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/05/photogalleries/Stonehenge-photos/images/primary/1_STONEHENGE_461.jpg)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: psxphill on October 22, 2010, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: Piru;584856
I don't think there's anything underneath it. The picture appears to be at the bottom of the case and the regular mounting screws are well visible:

There is definately space between the picture and the back of the case.
The screws are holding the picture in place & you can clearly see cables going behind it.
 
However whether there is anything behind the picture apart from some cardboard is another matter.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Colani1200 on October 22, 2010, 03:16:28 PM
Quote from: utri007;586201

Are you saying that there is no X1000 board and x1000 is a hoax, or what is point of this?


He just posted a funny picture, that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: jorkany on October 22, 2010, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: utri007;586201
I thought that you allready get your t-shirt?

Allways surprises me how long and how much piru wants to give negative publicity for anything wich is related to Amiga OS and hardware.

Are you saying that there is no X1000 board and x1000 is a hoax, or what is point of this?


I can't see what the positive side of displaying this at a show would be for the X1000. Sounds like your beef should be with whoever it is that put the paper printout in the case, not Piru (who probably didn't even take the picture).
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tone007 on October 22, 2010, 03:40:23 PM
I think the paper motherboard photograph is a good commentary on the desperation felt by OS4 users in regards to hardware availability.  Very profound.  If the man in the photo stood up, you'd see the tears in his eyes.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Matteus on October 23, 2010, 12:40:17 AM
Quote from: the_leander;586198
Ahem (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/).


That was released Sept 27 I think, remind me, when did Vista 64 bit come out? Just saying.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tone007 on October 23, 2010, 01:36:41 AM
Luckily the old 32 bit apps run nicely on most 64 bit operating systems.  Even XP64 works well enough. If you've got tons of RAM, you can't get away with 32 bit.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: persia on October 23, 2010, 03:14:56 AM
(http://botropolis.com/wp-content/uploads/hal2.jpg)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e120/nathanpt2000/Akiju%20Blog%20Entries/WORDPRESS%20BLOG/mono_03.jpg)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: koaftder on October 23, 2010, 03:32:45 AM
Quote from: jorkany;586225
I can't see what the positive side of displaying this at a show would be for the X1000.


Exactly. What the guys who are interested in this product want to see is OS4 running on something fast but instead they get to see stupid mockups of the case and info about "xena" and "xorro" that nobody will ever use. I'd bet money all this hardware stuff is done with and hyperion can't get their stuff in order.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: haywirepc on October 23, 2010, 05:01:55 AM
First they said release by summer... Now they said christmas.
 
If they are really showing fake circuit boards at shows... That speaks volumes about this project. We'll see.
 
Personally, I think its a joke. A bad one.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: Iggy on October 23, 2010, 05:47:30 AM
Hey Guys, while you're all amusing yourself that board pictured wasn't designed by A-eon (although Treavor probably influenced the processor choice since the designer had told me months before that he would have leaned toward a Freescale processor).
Yeah its way overpriced, but the Xena motherboard was designed by some very knowledgable people. If there are serious delays introducing this machine they're probably related to getting AOS4 ported to it.
Frankly I'd love to have one, if it ran MorphOS.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: the_leander on October 23, 2010, 02:04:52 PM
Quote from: Matteus;586338
That was released Sept 27 I think, remind me, when did Vista 64 bit come out? Just saying.


Because you couldn't possibly have ran a 32bit version of firefox or Opera, complete with the 32bit version of flash on either Vista64 or 7, right?

Writing off an entire 64 bit OS ecosystem because not all apps are 64 bit nor is there the need for them to be?

Seriously your complaint is a complete non issue. If you're building flash applications that are drawing more ram than a 32bit environment can offer, something somewhere in your program something has gone very, very awry. If by some coincidence you are actually coming across this, the question really has to be: Would what I'm building be better suited to some other programming language?
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: voxel on April 10, 2011, 09:54:17 PM
LOL ! seven pages on my x-1000 mockup ;-))))

That pics was taken at the Main Party 5 last October, in Arles (France)
that's my booth that's pictured, you can see some of my compagny cards on the top of the x-1000 tower, with some of the goods I've had on sale at the party  :-)

this is actually the tower that Relec has shown at the AmigaZoom Party, it's now mine :-)

It's just a "fan art" mockup to show somewhat will/could look an X-1000 in it's tower case, and as I don't have any real motheboard yet (waiting for my betatest one, there's in production now) it's real size printed prototype mobo that's sitting in it's place :-)

Amigalement,
JF voxel, voxelamigashop :-)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: klx300r on April 10, 2011, 10:52:12 PM
@ voxel

just noticed this thread...hilarious:p

especially love this comment:
" If they are really showing fake circuit boards at shows... That speaks volumes about this project. We'll see.
 
Personally, I think its a joke. A bad one."
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: actung_bab on April 11, 2011, 01:32:57 AM
Quote from: voxel;630825
LOL ! seven pages on my x-1000 mockup ;-))))

That pics was taken at the Main Party 5 last October, in Arles (France)
that's my booth that's pictured, you can see some of my compagny cards on the top of the x-1000 tower, with some of the goods I've had on sale at the party  :-)

this is actually the tower that Relec has shown at the AmigaZoom Party, it's now mine :-)

It's just a "fan art" mockup to show somewhat will/could look an X-1000 in it's tower case, and as I don't have any real motheboard yet (waiting for my betatest one, there's in production now) it's real size printed prototype mobo that's sitting in it's place :-)

Amigalement,
JF voxel, voxelamigashop :-)
Good on ya mate least your got bit go and imagintion just like orginal amiga
Creators your always got get people tha put down things ideas
Looks cool
tell when you get your board whats it like etc thanks for the cool post
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: magnetic on April 11, 2011, 02:13:37 AM
Quote from: Golem!dk;585290
They have a separate beta program for the cases?


LMFAO

I tell you guys, I was in a bad mood today and this thread really gave me some laughs. I kinda feel bad for the X1000 project, as it was well intentioned but I dont think Trevor invisioned all the obstacles.. I wish them well.. They really really really really need to get these boards available for people soon. Should have been out months ago. There was a lot of momentum a year ago with this project.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: gertsy on April 11, 2011, 12:14:45 PM
It's certainly ROHS compliant.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: jorkany on April 11, 2011, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: actung_bab;630850
Good on ya mate least your got bit go and imagintion just like orginal amiga
Creators your always got get people tha put down things ideas
Looks cool
tell when you get your board whats it like etc thanks for the cool post


You should know that his NDA would prevent that. Besides, I doubt he'll even remember your request next year when his beta board finally arrives.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: klx300r on April 11, 2011, 02:29:40 PM
Quote from: jorkany;630931
You should know that his NDA would prevent that. Besides, I doubt he'll even remember your request next year when his beta board finally arrives.

good to see you have a sense of humour:rolleyes:
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: voxel on April 13, 2011, 04:05:45 PM
beta-test cases why not ? ;-))) LOL :-))))

Beta test boards are in production as I type this, beta-testers should get their mobos pretty soon now :-)

you're right about the NDA, when I'll got it I'll can't say anything about the beast, appart that I got it and will be mad dancing on the ceilling  ;-))))

the mockup was not my idea, I must give credits to my friend X-Ray for this, I stumbled on it on his booth at the Amigazoom party in switzerland and can't resist to bought it from him to be able to show it on my booth at the numerous party I attend each year before being able to sell the real one in my amiga shop when availlable :-)

someone said "bizzarre place for the power supply" but not so bizzarre, 'cause when you put the power supply and hard disks at the bottom of a tower case, you displace the gravity center of the entire case to the base of it, so it is harder to make it fall if you bump in it :-)

cheers :-)
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: digiflip on April 17, 2011, 08:28:18 PM
my 2 cents this is dead on arrival apple bought the cpu company that made cpus for x1000, so they can only make what stock they allready bought has apple will make cpus a4 , a5 etc for only for ios devices.

Long Live Natami
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: smerf on April 17, 2011, 08:56:48 PM
Quote from: Piru;584825
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5403/x1000goodonpaper.jpg)
AmigaOne X1000
Looking good on paper


Hi,

Don't you know that this is that new technology where they can put a circuit board on a piece of thin plastic or mylar, This way you can have a roll up board that you can carry with you.

smerf
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: vidarh on April 17, 2011, 09:29:18 PM
Quote from: digiflip;632187
my 2 cents this is dead on arrival apple bought the cpu company that made cpus for x1000, so they can only make what stock they allready bought has apple will make cpus a4 , a5 etc for only for ios devices.


You can still buy new-old stock even of 680x0 CPU's. As such I very much doubt that the supply of PA6T will dry up until long after X1000 has ceased production, whether for bad reasons (A-Eon failing) or good reasons (new models) - the potential production volumes we're talking about for the X1000 is so small that batches held back for warranty or to honor resupply contracts (with the US military, for starters) that will eventually get released for open sale as they're no longer needed could likely keep A-Eon supplied with CPUs for many years.

This is assuming that Apple didn't allow the fab that manufactured these CPU's to continue manufacturing them on license, in that case it'd be even less of an issue.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tabbybasco on April 18, 2011, 05:29:21 PM
Quote from: ElPolloDiabl;584829
What 1800 buys you nowadays.:roflmao:


Well, I remember looking at an A2000 when it was first released and the price was about that much for (US$), then taking into account for inflation, I'd say, yes, I'll pay that much. I've been using WindBlows machines since I tried to install the A3000D motherboard into a Mirage tower...got to get the CD-ROM drive addressing strapped right and the floppy drive stopped working, other than that it kind-of still works, just can't install the drivers for the new expansion bus without the CD-ROM drive. I'm stuck using Xcrementing Profusely right now and it blows when it doesn't suck. I miss mi Amiga. And I'd be spending around US$1000.00 to get the old machine up and running and buying a CyberStormPPC card anyway just to use 4.1, so WY not go for broke and buy a new computer, that ok, maybe won't be as fast as a WinTel machine, but then with AmigaOS you don't need all that horsepower. I remember that the old A3000D didn't do too badly with standard CPU an 18MB of RAM. Even if I bought a new WinTel machine (HP mini tower) I'd still be stuck paying close to the same amount of money for the system I'd want, and I'd still be stuck with the two ton jockey that is WindBlows. And, yes, I've tried Linux and it's not much better than WindBlows. And I bought my first computer in 1981 so I'm not exactly a novice, plus being a retired US Navy Electronics Technician First Class, I know a little about electronics. No, this isn't my dream machine. For that I'd go with a 128 bit multiple-core, multiple parallel processors and 1TB of RAM. If you are going to dream, why not dream big???but I like the dual core XMOS coprocessor and the Xorro bus. I've looked at the specs and it allows for some interesting possibilities.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tabbybasco on April 18, 2011, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: ElPolloDiabl;584829
What 1800 buys you nowadays.:roflmao:
Well, I remember looking at an A2000 when it was first released and the price was about that much for (US$), then taking into account for inflation, I'd say, yes, I'll pay that much. I've been using WindBlows machines since I tried to install the A3000D motherboard into a Mirage tower...got to get the CD-ROM drive addressing strapped right and the floppy drive stopped working, other than that it kind-of still works, just can't install the drivers for the new expansion bus without the CD-ROM drive. I'm stuck using Xcrementing Profusely right now and it blows when it doesn't suck. I miss mi Amiga. And I'd be spending around US$1000.00 to get the old machine up and running and buying a CyberStormPPC card anyway just to use 4.1, so WY not go for broke and buy a new computer, that ok, maybe won't be as fast as a WinTel machine, but then with AmigaOS you don't need all that horsepower. I remember that the old A3000D didn't do too badly with standard CPU an 18MB of RAM. Even if I bought a new WinTel machine (HP mini tower) I'd still be stuck paying close to the same amount of money for the system I'd want, and I'd still be stuck with the two ton jockey that is WindBlows. And, yes, I've tried Linux and it's not much better than WindBlows. And I bought my first computer in 1981 so I'm not exactly a novice, plus being a retired US Navy Electronics Technician First Class, I know a little about electronics. No, this isn't my dream machine. For that I'd go with a 164 bit multiple-core, multiple parallel procossors and 1TB of RAM. If you are going to dream, why not dream big???but I like the dual core XMOS coprossor and the Xorro bus. I've looked at the specs and it allows for some interesting possibilities.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: persia on April 18, 2011, 06:44:28 PM
I like XMOS, I've just started playing with it an I think it's a great thing for robo-controlled devices.  You program XMOS, stick it in a device and away you go.  They're small, efficient and powerful enough to do pretty complex work without communicating back home.  Who knows, maybe a robot lunar lander with an XMOS or three on it?  It's pretty cheap to get into XMOS, a hundred US bucks will get you pretty much all you need to get started...  It programs through the USB on your Mac or PC.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: tabbybasco on April 18, 2011, 09:15:31 PM
It's unfortunate, but the world of M.S. Windows and Apple OS X are going the way of the Iphone, Ipad, and Android, with only "approved" apps allowed to be marketed. Micro Soft has always been infamous in withholding operating system information from competing developers. I was kind of curious when I heard about Windows 7 Cloud, but it has gotten out that Micro Soft is in fact developing an app store just like Apple and Google.

http://www.macgasm.net/2011/04/11/leak-windows-8-app-store-helluva-lot-apples-app-store/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383720,00.asp

So, where does this leave the computer hobbyist? My plans is to buy the X1000 to use as my main computer and the ASUS Transformer as my casual computer, and my Android phone as my pocket computer.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: actung_bab on April 18, 2011, 11:03:14 PM
Quote from: mpiva;584913
@ Piru

  What is the SOURCE of this photo.  I went to mainparty.net and I couldn't find the photo anywhere, neither can I find any mention of Aeon, TreverD, X1000, AmigaOne, or AmigaOS4.  Where's the evidence that this was an official Aeon demonstration.  At best, I'd say it's just some over zealous Amiga fan trying to unofficially advertise the X1000, at worst it could be you (though I doubt it) taking a picture in his basement intentially trying to make a mockery of the X1000.

  At the VERY LEAST, you need to give proper references to your wild claims/photos.
Done be silly these people just want knock it whatever happens there bunch kids
Cause cant afford they jealous What plantet are they on

What hobbys are not expesive oh yeah there hobyy be negitive no imgaintion club

hehe i got 4 hobbys motorcycles/ hifi/ xbox 360/ps3 / amiga classic /amiga ppc/
out the 6 i rekon x1000 affordable esp compared to buying new 2000 back in the day
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: actung_bab on April 18, 2011, 11:09:34 PM
Quote from: jorkany;630931
You should know that his NDA would prevent that. Besides, I doubt he'll even remember your request next year when his beta board finally arrives.
I decided am going order my own x1000 mb when avaible just shut you guys up and
when saying how awsome it is hehe i cant wait
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: commodorejohn on April 18, 2011, 11:20:33 PM
Quote from: actung_bab;632367
Cause cant afford they jealous What plantet are they on
There's a big difference between "can't afford" and "would not pay that kind of money for."
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: jorkany on April 18, 2011, 11:43:31 PM
Quote from: actung_bab;632369
I decided am going order my own x1000 mb when avaible just shut you guys up and
when saying how awsome it is hehe i cant wait


That's probably about the only legitimate reason to buy an X1000.
Title: Re: X1000 looking good on paper?
Post by: ciento on April 19, 2011, 08:02:49 AM
Quote from: commodorejohn;584917
Feh, at $2300 USD for a 2GHz computer, it mocks itself.

Wrong, its a system for an OS that has it's roots at 7mhz, and has
grown in demand for resources over time, but 2Ghz with Os 4x or Morphos
has no valid comparison to windows variants running on that speed of hardware.

A proper perspective for comparison, would be to price commodity gear
that runs windows or 0sEX as fast as a seasoned Amiga user runs his
well configured Morphos/OS4 setup.

Beyond that it's a hobbyists lifelong dream, so you can't ridicule his venture as if his plan all along was to take market share from the hp, dell scales of enterprise.

Once talented people turn 54, they realize a dream in this world, may be
swifter afoot than first thought, especially as friends of similar age
have health issues, or take  the long ride in the short box.
Cheers