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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga community support ideas => Topic started by: HaukeVB on December 03, 2016, 11:13:36 AM
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Hi, does anybody have contact information for SAS, that could help release the source-code to the compiler (buyout or open-source)?
Or is in contact with anybody who does?
Please help! :(
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I ask about that somewhere else.
Try maybe to contact Jim Cooper, Steve Krueger, Douglas Walker they may know if it's possible.
They still work at SAS, they still have their compiler but it is used for internal project only so I guess it will never be open sourced.
Kamelito
https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comments/2nekbp/any_oldtime_amiga_users_from_19851990/
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I ask about that somewhere else.
Try maybe to contact Jim Cooper, Steve Krueger, Douglas Walker they may know if it's possible.
They still work at SAS, they still have their compiler but it is used for internal project only so I guess it will never be open sourced.
Kamelito
https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comments/2nekbp/any_oldtime_amiga_users_from_19851990/
Right now I would settle for the option to license it for commercial use again. SAS/C is crucially important for the AmigaOS 2.x/3.x platform because it is the best-integrated 'C' development environment for it.
Code quality apparently leaves something to be desired still, but the alternatives are very scarce (who's got a working source level debugger and a profiler?).
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I ask about that somewhere else.
Try maybe to contact Jim Cooper, Steve Krueger, Douglas Walker they may know if it's possible.
They still work at SAS, they still have their compiler but it is used for internal project only so I guess it will never be open sourced.
Kamelito
https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comments/2nekbp/any_oldtime_amiga_users_from_19851990/
Did you get any contact details?
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Right now I would settle for the option to license it for commercial use again. SAS/C is crucially important for the AmigaOS 2.x/3.x platform because it is the best-integrated 'C' development environment for it.
Bingo. Asking for "open source" first might already scare decision makers within SAS/C, so I wouldn't go this route right now and would not set the priority on the license conditions too high.
The important part is not "open source or not", the important part is to get contacts to the decision makers within SAS/C, and *then* discuss potential options.
In the best possible case, they might be able to put a "price tag" on the source. Even getting it licensed again - as in "binaries for money" - would be tremendously helpful.
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price tag
i doubt there is anyone left who could or would pay a "price tag" if there was any.
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I have an original version with manuals and disks. Its in switzerland though.
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i doubt there is anyone left who could or would pay a "price tag" if there was any.
Cue the angry hordes with pitchforks demanding A-Eon buy it in 5... 4..... 3..... ;)
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I have an original version with manuals and disks. Its in switzerland though.
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Isn't SAS a multibillion dollar company, if so I doubt they would put a price on an ancient Amiga classic compiler. Whether you could find anybody there willing to put the time and effort into open sourcing it is also doubtful but you never know, good luck.
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Isn't SAS a multibillion dollar company, if so I doubt they would put a price on an ancient Amiga classic compiler.
Yes, and I afraid I have to agree. I'm not very optimistic that this will go anywhere...
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Wasn't SAS/C made free for download?
Fuzzy recollection there.
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Wasn't SAS/C made free for download?
Fuzzy recollection there.
I don't think so, and you can't buy it new either.
https://www.warped.com/amiga/
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A quick google search turned up at least one download of 6.50 with the patches. It has been there a while with no issue so far.
Note that I do own a real copy of SAS/C but backup images for the diskettes are always welcome.
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Isn't SAS a multibillion dollar company, if so I doubt they would put a price on an ancient Amiga classic compiler. Whether you could find anybody there willing to put the time and effort into open sourcing it is also doubtful but you never know, good luck.
not sure of their budget. but doesnt the multibillion company, you may be referring to, rather go by the name of "SAP"? however, software by any actually operating company may be beyond any such "pricetag". id love to be wrong..
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Doug Walker : http://doug.walkerfamily.name/
The other two you can contact through LinkedIn
I suggest that someone like Olsen or Thor contact them.
Kamelito
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not sure of their budget. but doesnt the multibillion company, you may be referring to, rather go by the name of "SAP"? however, software by any actually operating company may be beyond any such "pricetag". id love to be wrong..
You're going to love this then ;)
It is indeed SAS and not SAP. The compiler identifies itself as SAS/C when you run it.
SAS Institute acquired the Lattice 'C' compiler back in 1987, if I remember correctly, so as to make their software more portable across different computer platforms. SAS Institute no longer had to rely upon 3rd party software for that purpose.
Lattice 'C' was the first commercially available 'C' software development solution which ran natively on the Amiga operating system. After the acquisition the product name was changed to SAS/C (version 5). If I remember correctly, product support for SAS/C on the Amiga ceased in 1995. You could still buy the compiler at that time, while SAS Institute was liquidating the available stock.
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A quick google search turned up at least one download of 6.50 with the patches. It has been there a while with no issue so far.
Note that I do own a real copy of SAS/C but backup images for the diskettes are always welcome.
Only the patches were available for free.
Kamelito
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You're going to love this then ;)
It is indeed SAS and not SAP. The compiler identifies itself as SAS/C when you run it.
i was referring to ianp post, where i assumed he might have mistaken SAS for SAP. im not sure if SAS is multibillion company. SAP is, i guess.
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Doug Walker : http://doug.walkerfamily.name/
The other two you can contact through LinkedIn
I suggest that someone like Olsen or Thor contact them.
Kamelito
i think its been agreed upon jens does it.
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i was referring to ianp post, where i assumed he might have mistaken SAS for SAP. im not sure if SAS is multibillion company. SAP is, i guess.
SAS Annual Report 2015 (pdf) (http://www.sas.com/content/dam/SAS/en_us/doc/other1/company-overview-annual-report.pdf) page 13 shows revenue for the year $3.16B.
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SAS Annual Report 2015 (pdf) (http://www.sas.com/content/dam/SAS/en_us/doc/other1/company-overview-annual-report.pdf) page 13 shows revenue for the year $3.16B.
mm. sorry. not sure, if thats good news.