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Re: AROS Browser Bounty progress
« on: January 12, 2009, 05:29:26 PM »
ehehe that's great...

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Re: AROS Browser Bounty progress
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 10:25:08 AM »
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wawrzon wrote:
lol. windows usually also makes a nice impression as long as you have no (3rd party) software installed on. so why bother with an os like aros_x86 as long as there isnt even something to install on?


I like these wrong assumptions, specially when they are thrown into a forum where other people can easily laugh at 'em. AROS used to lack of software long ago, but now it has good quality applications that can be used for different purposes, and others are rapidly coming. Just to give you a plain idea, when I composed the first 'concept' version 0.1 of my AROS distribution, it needed just 300 megs or so on the hard drive. Now it requires at least 1 GB. This process required only 12 months. I don't exactly know how an operating system without third party software could let you play dozens of games, read PDF files, extract files from multiple archive types, play AVI VMW MOV MPEG etc movies, show pictures, make fine photo-retouch and painting works, send and receive emails, compose music, play songs, create data-bases, browse the web, emulate other systems and so on. But with VmwAROS 1.0.1 you can do all these things and many others, so the possibilities are only two: either we are all dreaming, or your assumptions on AROS' third party software are wrong.

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edit:68k has at least already enough software to justify an os replacement or upgrade.


That's questionable as well, since 68k applications are generally obsolete, and current software on actual platforms mostly give better results in less time, requiring also less efforts from users. So a replacement OS for 68K can be good for retrocomputing, that's something only a strict niche of people does. Moreover, you can easily use 68k apps within AROS using the E-UAE emulator: this also assures the BEST compatibility, since they are working in a completely emulated, original environment.
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Re: AROS Browser Bounty progress
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 04:14:40 PM »
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Manu wrote:
If you have XP installed, you could always dowload
Vmware player, and the VE version of vmwaros.
That way you can very easily have a look.


No need to do that anymore. VmwAROS Live! already includes a whole virtual machine (QEMU) which can run VmwAROS Live! inside Windows, as like as any other application. The only issue is speed: it's heavily slower than running straight on real hardware.
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Re: AROS Browser Bounty progress
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2009, 08:53:37 AM »
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Is it just me or why close button is misplaced in tabs? ;-)


If you usually use Firefox, it's in the right place. If you prefer Internet Explorer, it's in the wrong place.
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Re: AROS Browser Bounty progress
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2009, 07:35:26 AM »
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Have you ever considered putting the install for AROS live on CDs?  I have a laptop that meets those specs but it's too stupid to boot off a USB DVD drive.  I'd love to install all that stuff but can't without a DVD drive!


Sorry, but the way VmwAROS (and AROS itself) installs forces me to place everything on a single media. I'm studying a solution for the problem, but nothing that can be anticipated.

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Re: AROS Browser Bounty progress
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2009, 07:44:47 AM »
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It is not about being used to FF or IE, but about UI coherence. And in Amigaish OSes the close gadget is always left (for a reason).


The reason is that placing the close gadget on the right corner would bring people clicking accidetally on it, instead of performing other operations as they wish. On tabs you can't perform those operations. Amiga UI didn't also include "closeable" tabs: Stanislaw had to program this feature by himself and add it to Zune. I don't think we can talk about "UI coherente" at all, in this case...
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Re: AROS Browser Bounty progress
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 08:43:36 AM »
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Crumb wrote:
@paolone

On AmigaOS UI the most coherent place would be the left side because you already close other GUI elements (e.g. Windows) with a gadget on the left.


Since on AROS the close gadget is part of the decoration stuff (and hence it is user-configurable), it can be either placed on the left or the right.

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Putting close gadgets at the right of the tabs will confuse amigans since amigans have close gadgets at left. Putting the close gadget at the right on MS Windows is the best place since the user closes the windows with a gadget located at the right.


I frankly hope amigans are not so retarded to be confused by the ONLY gadget present on the tab (apart the title).

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Anyway if the close gadget of the tabs was configurable problem solved for those people who is used to alien OSes with close gadgets on the right.


I hope Stanislaw will look into this only later and if he has time to waste, because the most urget goal is to have a working, full-featured browser, and not making happy a few people who has ALWAYS to be negative for something and to cry for stupid things (like this one).

The big news is we finally have a browser, and what I have got to read here? "the close gadget in tabs is in the wrong place". I really can't express how silly this comment is IMHO.

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PS: Stanislaw has done a great work :-)


Well, at least this is clear to everyone.
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