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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« on: March 01, 2011, 05:08:35 PM »
Show they still brain (but no Amiga heart).
Well, first Commodo appeared on their web site, we used to joke its antivirus.

Makes no difference their big skinning has other name to their project.
AmigaOS 5 (and Workbench 5) can only be result of progress of OS 4.0

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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 05:09:52 PM »
Quote from: nicholas;618636
Commodore Amiga own it in Iran and the rest of the free world.


Double dat!
Some of the retired dictators will be hired to help their worldwide domination :-)

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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 05:18:39 PM »
Quote from: AmigaNG;618634

Clearly the Commodore brand is stronger than the Amiga brand.


Another sad case of their wild self exponations that generaly inslut AmigaOS and Amigas. There has been no CBM 64/128 related products aside from emulation joystick and boards, C64x is still a repacked ITX or small ATX modern PC clone board, while Amiga boards and AmigaOS are on sale and in development. Classic time Commodore Amiga brend was result of both, as Commodore USA and Commodore USA Amiga brands are result of nothing but licence purchase.

Hope this kind of their propaganda will not make much Amiga related news, now we are at least free to use our trademarks.

Last petition was to ask that they note use exact numeration of models, and they would be left to live with their fantasies. Mind that they have purchased just licence to use Amiga name in All In One computers like Phoenix and their Commodore64x

A petition was set to POLITELY ask CUSA to change their Amiga naming convention.

Text is

To: Commodore USA

It has come to our attention that Commodore USA is about to launch a new line of "AMIGA(tm)" branded computers using the classic Amiga(tm) naming convention. These new computers have absolutely nothing in common with the old Amiga(tm) computers other than the name.

By the reuse of the classic Amiga(tm) names we firmly believe that this will confuse potential users of the AmigaOS(tm) platforms, i.e. the AmigaONE(tm) line of computers.

Your "Amiga 1000x" model for instance will most likley be confused with the "AmigaONE X1000" from A-EON. The Amiga community today is focused around the AmigaOS and its derivatives. While Commodore USA might not see this as a primary market a lot of work both commercial and non-profitable has been put into the success of the Next Generation AmigaOS and the AmigaONE hardware. That is why the sudden introduction of a new Commodore branded Amiga 1000x could be seen as a way to buy into this success.

This is the reason why we wholeheartedly appeal to you to reconsider using the old classic Amiga numbering in your new line of Commodore Amigas.
Sincerely,

Link is
http://www.petitiononline.com/newamiga/petition.html

Knowing their PR, I doubt even strong petition would influence them,
but I have signed it.

My objection is not only confusion to AmigaOne series, but to Amiga Classics.

Some people still use Classics, and they are not reproducing Classic models of any kind. Having EXACT same name of the old and new model IS confusion (e.g. how to threat it on Wikipedia etc.). However, knowing it will be simple PC`s I doubt they will also ever enter Amiga history pages or Wikipedia articles: they have nothing to do with AmigaOS`s which is real Amiga criteria.
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 05:30:18 PM »
Whoever made petition made a bad example.

But Commodore Amiga 1000 is easy to confuse with Comoodre USA Amiga 1000, special if later has no USA in name.

It for sure isnt this computer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nwJMjhiwM
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 08:03:12 PM »
Quote from: Piru;618709
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And I'd be inclined to agree that as a brand Commodore is much more recognizable than Amiga.
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I don`t. AMiga was Commodores best selling brend, but Commodore has lead Amiga to death. Amiga outlived Commodore, this is just an optical illusion, copyright zombie exploit.

Commodore 64 and 128D were great computers, I enjoyed my slimp cheap version for East Europe for years.

But thats a dumb exponation from company whose first Commodore is not selling yet, and next they say they gonna zombify all Commodore Amigas (that will not even resemble original Classics).
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 08:23:53 PM »
Quote from: Digiman;618725
C64 had about 2-300% more sales than all Amiga models.


Great for Commodore. And that alone helps CUSA in 2011? Dont be childish. They don`t like they know its a problem to use Workbench name and need sound excuse. If so, why they dont realise Commodore 1000, 2000, 3000 and 4000?
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 08:34:50 PM »
Quote from: Digiman;618730
Your English no good? You said Amiga was Comodore's biggest success. Wrong, that would be C64 @ 17+ million sold (lowest estimate).

I don't care about C=USA OR Cloanpoo :)


Oh, so 8-bit times were that BIG? And how many Sinclair ZX Spectrums were sold

P.S.
Can you please find me the SInclair QL numbers - that is a secret!

OK, I admit I was mistaken. But in my idealism Amiga has brought us to 32-bit digital consumer and creation era (digitizing, music, art, drawing, gaming, BBBS ...) and Commodore Bussines Machines were nice, but a bridge to it.
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 11:16:47 PM »
Dedication for most popular brand "Femmodore"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s83-GtlCzek
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 08:11:14 AM »
Quote from: dammy;618880
C=USA is heavily focused on the C64x's launch with all sorts of contractual obligations demanding C64x be ready in large numbers.  Given the speed of this all coming together, it's going to have to have fairly stock OSs for it.  The Amiga series, OTOH, is still being fleshed out while the C64x has very high priority.  Once the C64x is out in stores, then I expect C=USA release information about the Amiga series and it's OS. Ubunto is not that exciting to me, C=USA's the follow on OS that will be running on C=USA Amiga series has my interest peaked. Although such a OS will probably take nearly a year to get such a project to beta level testing. :-|


Maybe they were afraid real WB 5.0 might be out by that time?
(Black humor on both camps)
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 02:09:50 PM »
Quote from: Duce;618956
I own a SAM 440, A1200, Mac Mini running unregged MorphOS, and recently put together a spare PC and am running AROS on it.

We good?  I never questioned your loyalty or preference in which system you use, I couldn't care less.


But you don`t intend to use Commodo(re)OS?

Neither do I. Here is my celebration of its WB to Commodore Change!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s83-GtlCzek

A new company that has got rights to the Amiga name and is planning some cool looking All in One computers, the only problem, it basically a PC not an Amiga, plus they have made matter worst by the way they handled them self in the community, using images that are not there's, threatening legal action (now dropped), attacking Aros users, and basically being ass holes. But hopefully we might get some cool looking cases out of it....but don't hold your breath. This video has absolutely nothing to do with CommodoreUSA

As response to news
CommodoreUSA is no longer using Workbench 5 as the name. Once again proving that C=USA using names before they checked weather they could use it.
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_OS.aspx

From the forum:-
"Well, as you may have realised we were never firm on the name of our Commodore OS. So Commodore OS it is.
Clearly the Commodore brand is stronger than the Amiga brand.
It is definitely stronger than the Workbench name also.
It probably didn't make much sense as the name of the OS on the C64x and we were thinking of calling that Commodore OS anyway.
Our initial thoughts were to go with Commodore OS, well before we got the Amiga trademark licensed.
I am greatly relieved at the outcome actually, as the Workbench name gave rise to an immense amount of fanciful expectations of what our OS will be. "
(My repost have everything to do with CUSA)
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So far :

Starting using commodore name before having legal permission to do so.

Launched a website before having legal permission to use the commodore name or trademarks.

Starting using workbench name before having legal rights to do so.

copied and pasted apples website to their own site. (never admitted, but its been proven multiple times)

Ceo threatens to sue osnews.com for stating facts.

Ceo retracts legal threat after realizing what an asshole he is.

Lots of announced then cancelled new products.

First trashed, then embraced aros, then switched to using ubuntu with a commodore wallper.

New products being announced every month, but not one shipping yet.

commodore stickers slapped on cybernet zpc's. (only one sold) The guy that bought one is their new chief technical officer.

They announce a new Commodore/amiga OS :
Commodore wallpapers on ubuntu. (Calling it workbench V)

A new company shipping amiga branded computers before them.
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2011, 04:42:48 PM »
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;619007
Firstly, its Ubuntu (only one vowel in there, no need to add in extras), and secondly, there is no such thing as a "heavily modified" Ubuntu.  It will be ubuntu, drawing from ubuntu or medibuntu repos, and perhaps if BillyBob can afford serverspace somewhere, a "cawmmehDourOHS" repo that hosts their "Heavily Modified" Gnome DE.

As for writing their own monolithic or microkernel from scratch to beta testing in a year?  OH!  and all of the software (Windowing environments, device drivers - and good luck getting Nvidia/Intel/ATI to release the full HW specs so you can write your own!) that runs on top of it?  Yeah.  Gonna happen. :lol:


After deciding to skin Ubuntu, what do they a whole year?
That does that means Commodore USA Amigas will be avail in 2012?
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2011, 05:50:22 PM »
Quote from: dammy;619037
Far sooner, initially with Ubuntu or some tweak of it.


Ubuntu CommodoOS! Welcome 2011
Linux based OS with Amiga emulation

Now what and how accurate emulation?
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2011, 03:19:29 PM »
Quote from: WolfToTheMoon;619290
we'll see once the sales start.

I think C-64x and VIC-Book will do very fine.

New business model isn't needed because the current one hasn't yet been tested.


So exactly, IF C64/VIC do good (no reason why they shouldn`t, no reason why they should either as there are many PCs in many nice cases) THEN CUSA Amiga will be launched at all ELSE everything will be wapor as usual. Tan and see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycI_Hw2zNcY
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2011, 03:35:32 PM »
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;619307
I was always a fan of Toots and the Maytals:

[youtube]4x6IYNp4FXw[/youtube]


Nah, I doubt good people of CUSA know proper music :-)

Gkad you like Toots, big band, stil alive and kickin`

No, but I&I love MOS component is called "Reggae" :-)

Anyway, you are always welcome to come and check roots reggae & ragga at my YT http://www.youtube.com/user/vojinvidanovic79?feature=mhum

Back to topic: Now, they need not to realise CUSA Amigas at all, and we were all live happily after. They could go producing their fatty for eva.
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Re: Workbench 5 renamed Commodore OS
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2011, 03:37:38 PM »
Quote from: jorkany;619310
What does this mean?
Are you threatening with melanoma?


http://www.niceup.com/patois.html

TAN'   :   to stand; usually used in the sense of "to be". "A so im tan", "that is what he is like"; "tan deh!" or "yu tan deh!" means "just you wait!". "Tan tedy", stand steady, means "hold still". (5)
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