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What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« on: August 05, 2012, 09:19:59 PM »
Hello everybody what is your favorite Amiga and why

i like my amiga 4000 and amiga 600 the best, i find that almost all games run good on them. but i also like my old amiga 2000 that old girl still keeps going :-)
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
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Commodore 128
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2012, 09:34:16 PM »
I like my A1200 as it is very expandable (it was even on release) and started using lower cost, industry standard parts e.g. IDE, SIMMS etc.

If I had the choice of a big box Amiga, it would be close between a 4000T and an upgraded A1200 in a tower case.
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012, 09:34:32 PM »
Amiga 4000 for me, definitely. It's the only way to have the compatibility of AGA and the expandability of the big box Amigas. The 2000 and 3000 were both very good, but the 3000 used ZIP RAMS and had limited space. The 2000 was great but only Zorro II. The 4000 has its faults but overall it's the most versatile, and it still surprises me some of the things it can do when it's pumped up enough.

Still have a soft spot for the A1200 though for a quick WHDLoad game, and the A600 is just cute. :)
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012, 09:39:46 PM »
It's almost a tie between my 4000T and 3000T, those don't have whacky problems and are expandable.
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012, 09:40:29 PM »
A3000 and A1000. Both incredible machines when they came out and made with little compromise.
 

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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 09:51:18 PM »
My humble opinion:

I thought Commodore's shinning moment was the release of the Amiga 3000.  Some of my thoughts:

-They pushed the consumer, education, and workstation market with it.
-They ported Unix to it and did a great job of it!
-They had premier support services to make it more attractive in the Workstation market.
-The manuals were very well done; both the Amiga and AMIX manuals.
-They actually had advertising and media events.
-It looked like a workstation computer with both a desktop and tower version.
-Inside, it was really a good computer with lots of nice components.
-The higher-educational push was a great deal and helped to get Amiga's into some really nice universities.  AMIX did exceptionally well against A/UX and other unices.
-Amiga Vision was a great product to combine many of these items together.


I just thought Commodore was at their best during this period.  The computer was great, the articles favorable, Commodore's stock did well, and it felt like a professional Commodore with a great machine.

By the time the 4000 shipped, the market was much different.  The Amiga was loosing market share rapidly, Commodore looked confused, and all of it felt different.  Windows was really taking off and Commodore didn't seem like a contender anymore.

I sold my 3000 and bought a 4000.  I loved AGA but the rest of it seemed iffy.  About a year (more or less) later I sold all my Amiga stuff as the writing on the wall was pretty clear.

I also felt the Amiga 1200 was a great replacement for the 500 on the low-end.

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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 09:52:35 PM »
Is Amiga 1000 rare? i dont see them for sale here in denmark. and they are not on ebay very often. are they easy to upgrade or is it hard
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 09:55:24 PM »
Definitely the A3000 was made at or close to the peak of Commodore's interest in the Amiga, at least compared to the 4000. There's loads of bits and pieces about the 4000 that were never finished (bugs in Buster, 2MB Chip RAM limit despite 8MB support on the motherboard). Interestingly there's also support for the 68020 on A4000 motherboards, which shows just how little idea Commodore had about what to do with the machine.

Doesn't change the fact it rocks though. :)
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 10:04:45 PM »
It a shame commodore went under in 1994, one would think they could keep it going with all the machines they sold over the years. but i think they made some bad choices. The amiga cd32 was a good console, but i think they should have shipped it with 040 cpu and 4 mb ram, so it could compete with the new pc and playstation. it was a time where 3d games took of
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D
 

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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2012, 10:13:59 PM »
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It a shame commodore went under in 1994, one would think they could keep it going with all the machines they sold over the years. but i think they made some bad choices. The amiga cd32 was a good console, but i think they should have shipped it with 040 cpu and 4 mb ram, so it could compete with the new pc and playstation. it was a time where 3d games took of


I doubt that would have been practical. The 040 was expensive, power hungry and hot and were only used by Commodore in their big-box systems.

What the system really needed was Fast RAM, even if it was only an additional 1MB. That and something better than akiko for chunky graphics support. If not a real chunky display, then at least an implementation of akiko that could both perform the C2P and write the result to Chip RAM directly, rather than being something you wrote to, read the results back from and then wrote them to Chip RAM yourself. All that data shuffling didn't do performance any favours.
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2012, 10:21:19 PM »
I have to vote for the A500. It was the cheapest of all Amiga models, so it really brought Amiga to the masses. And it didn`t even sacrifice much expandability. When you got an A590 and a KCS-PC emulator you where as powerful as a reasonably expanded A2000. Furthermore, when the A500 was introduced, it`s technologoy was still ahead of virtually any generic machine on the market. Later models like the A3000 and the A1200 didn`t seem as superior to the newest (and most expensive) sound cards and graphics adapters.
 

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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2012, 10:51:38 PM »
A3000 (T) was a super machine, best I ever owned.

I liked my A4000 with '060 and graphics card, but I'll always be partial to my first, the A3000.  If I ever buy another classic Amiga, it'll certainly be an A3000.

I always disliked the wedge Amiga systems and AIO PC's, still do.
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2012, 10:57:54 PM »
So little love for the 1200?

With the humble 1200, you get:

AGA (you can use various tricks to run old software on your 1200, but nothing will get an AGA title to run on an ECS machine)

2 megs chip RAM built in.

A wealth of reasonably priced upgrade options for processors and RAM today.

Hard drive interface already in the machine

PCMCIA interface, making for extremely easy file transfers and networking.


On top of that, back in the day, the 1200 was quite affordable, even on a budget. Sure, a 3000 or 4000 was great but you'd pay through the nose.
 

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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2012, 11:03:16 PM »
I wish i had an Amiga 1200 but mayby i will get one in the future :-) it sounds like a cool machine.
Right now i have my Amiga 4000 and 3 x 2000 and Amiga 600 and the good old 500 :-)
and the only console amiga made the cd32. hope i can save up to a 1200 soon.
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
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Re: What is the best Amiga in your Opinion?
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2012, 11:03:27 PM »
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Hello everybody what is your favorite Amiga and why


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What the system really needed was Fast RAM, even if it was only an additional 1MB. That and something better than akiko for chunky graphics support. If not a real chunky display, then at least an implementation of akiko that could both perform the C2P and write the result to Chip RAM directly, rather than being something you wrote to, read the results back from and then wrote them to Chip RAM yourself. All that data shuffling didn't do performance any favours.


I agree. Just 1 MB of fast ram (in a SIMM slot preferably) would have been much better than the Akiko.