An Open Letter to Dave Haynie

[Argo]

I'm with Dave. It is not all too untrue claim. There is just not point in arguing it at this point.  Your Ego needs a tougher skin.

[magnetic]

Argo
once again what are you basing it on? This is beyond stupid now.

[Argo]

Yup, this argument is pretty much past its time.  
Based on comments on ANN.lu 12 years ago by Ralph.
Since then Morphos has gone through at least one rewrite and has shared code in it from AROS. Not to mention it has been 12 years. I doubt much if anything is left of the code from that time. Morphos' codebase is closed source anyway. As is all of the versions of AmigaOS. Impossible to prove anything.
Not to mention, What is the point?  A reason to hate/dislike/jab at Morphos? Some people would just do that anyway. It's NOT AmigaOS is reason enough for some. So, let it roll like water off a ducks back.
I've got nothing else to say, nor reason to see this topic continue.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Oh shoot.   By the title, I thought this was going to be a plea for Dave to take the Amiga reins and lead us into a brighter and unfragmented future.

Seriously.  For F's sake.  

[lsmart]

Let's just delete this thread shall we?

+1

[Akiko]

Someone delete the silly thread please.

[jacadcaps]

Yup, this argument is pretty much past its time.  
Based on comments on ANN.lu 12 years ago by Ralph.

You mean the ones in which he explains where all the modules in the OS come from? (it's all here: http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/morphoscritics.html)

Since then Morphos has gone through at least one rewrite.

Has it, really? Gee, I cannot see that in my CVS logs. But obviously you must know better.

[jacadcaps]

Someone delete the silly thread please.

Why would you deny anyone the right to defend from silly accusations made by liars?

[Duce]

Quite frankly, the whole thread makes all involved parties look like dickheads.  Why not take it to email rather than drag up a thread from 2004 to here cause a guy stated his opinion?  Same old shit, the Amiga scene drops back into the old "9 year old girls swinging their purses at each other" deal.

[Kesa]

... scene drops back into the old "9 year old girls swinging their purses at each other" deal.

That sounds alright to me. But maybe i will swap the 9 year olds to 19 year olds

[Piru]

I've also heard that they used an awful lot of aros source code.
 
If they are using aros source code then closing their own source and charging for the resulting product, I find a bigger problem with that.

AROS Public License clearly allows that. Furthermore the MorphOS Team has contributed their changes back to AROS. Also, we clearly indicate the origin of the AROS parts in the Docs/Licenses.txt, relevant parts quoted here:

Many components are fully, or partially under  the AROS Public License,
these should be identifiable through  the notice in their version-info,
some of those are also embedded in the boot.img, and are mentioned here
for convenience:

   dos.library
   gadtools.library
   intuition.library

We also use various other components under  other licenses. The licenses include: GPL, LGPL, FTL, BSD, TrueCrypt License Version 2.6 and some custom licenses.

[Kesa]

Piru is well within his rights to demand an explanation. Legend or not, Dave Haynie is out of line.

I feel the same way about Wayne Hunt. Legend or not, he has a lot to answer for lately.

Being a legend will only get you so far.

[Piru]

Why not take it to email

What is his email then? I tried to find it, but could not. If you know it, please PM me or email it to sintonen@iki.fi.

rather than drag up a thread from 2004

He made the accusation couple of days ago.

to here cause a guy stated his opinion

So if I claim you stole my car it's just an opinion?

[MaximvsPayne]

oh my god, not again.. will these amigaos/morphos wars never end? its a shame, i really like morphos and i like amigaos and i also like aros. come on people, everybody should get a nice cold beer and drink together!!

[Piru]

come on people, everybody should get a nice cold beer and drink together!!

I know Dave likes a cold one. It's unfortunate he is making these accusations he's not willing to back up.

[Piru]

Let's not piss off one of the few Amiga legends who still bothers to maintain an interest in Amiga developments.

From my perspective it rather looks like a besserwisser kind of snide remarks from the side of the court. Also I have much more respect on the software guys than him.

Of course everyone is entitled to have an opinion, there's nothing wrong with that. What I dislike is making wild accusations of theft one is not willing to back up.