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So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« on: April 08, 2011, 12:27:08 AM »
The complaint levelled against OS 4 was always that the hardware was too expensive for what it did, and that the only reason people were clinging to it was the name.
 
The complaint levelled against CUSA is that the hardware is too expensive for what it does, and that the only reason people are clinging to it is the name.
 
 
Everything thats wrong is right again?
The world is backwards?
 
 
EDIT: In order to facilitate discussion:
 
Does the name matter?
What makes a machine amiga?
Is anything post CBM amiga?
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 12:37:43 AM »
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The complaint levelled against OS 4 was always that the hardware was too expensive for what it did, and that the only reason people were clinging to it was the name.
 
The complaint levelled against CUSA is that the hardware is too expensive for what it does, and that the only reason people are clinging to it is the name.
 
 
Everything thats wrong is right again?
The world is backwards?
 
 
EDIT: In order to facilitate discussion:
 
Does the name matter?
What makes a machine amiga?
Is anything post CBM amiga?

Silly boy! Of course it isn't.
At least WE never pretended it was.

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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 12:48:20 AM »
Quote from: runequester;629804
EDIT: In order to facilitate discussion:
 
Does the name matter?
What makes a machine amiga?
Is anything post CBM amiga?


Does the name matter? = YES...
What makes a machine amiga? = The custom chipsets...
Is anything post CBM amiga? = Only the Escom/Amiga Technologies stuff...

Everything else no matter how good it is, is after all just some form of Amiga emulator... :)
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 12:57:42 AM »
I won't pretend to be the ultimate arbiter of what makes an Amiga an Amiga (if you want my personal opinion, I've helpfully written it down,) but I know what doesn't make an Amiga: PC clone hardware running Linux.
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 01:11:09 AM »
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I won't pretend to be the ultimate arbiter of what makes an Amiga an Amiga (if you want my personal opinion, I've helpfully written it down,) but I know what doesn't make an Amiga: PC clone hardware running Linux.

So this doesn't count?

http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/hardware/amiga/developerbundle.html&cart_id=8052394_12649

And this doesn't count?

http://www.amiga.com/shop/
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 01:24:04 AM »
well, I guess thats where the question comes in: Was it just the name all along?
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 01:33:59 AM »
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well, I guess thats where the question comes in: Was it just the name all along?

From current events, you'd think so.
But if that was the case there wouldn't be so much friction between AOS4 and MorphOS camps.

Some say the heart of the system was in the chips.
Personally, I think it was in the software.
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 01:35:35 AM »
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 01:37:14 AM »
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No.

But they've got Amiga badges. And they're authorized by the IP holder.
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 01:45:35 AM »
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But they've got Amiga badges. And they're authorized by the IP holder.
And that's some mighty fancy Commodore drag they're in, sure. But they're not Amigas.
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 01:46:55 AM »
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But they've got Amiga badges. And they're authorized by the IP holder.

Im inclined to agree with you that the software is what makes it so.
 
It seems that these days, the name is what counts. I guess thats how the world works now
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 02:05:10 AM »
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Im inclined to agree with you that the software is what makes it so.
 
It seems that these days, the name is what counts. I guess thats how the world works now

Its gotta be, otherwise a Mac is a PC.
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 02:17:25 AM »
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Its gotta be, otherwise a Mac is a PC.

On the flipside, a powerPC mac can be a PC by running linux :)
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 02:27:21 AM »
So my two A1200s and old mac quadra 910 running linux are also PCs then.
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Re: So were the Morph OS folks wrong all along?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 04:17:06 AM »
What linux do you run on your 1200's btw?
I know there's a 68K Debian.
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