Web Browser

[curtis]

Okay, I'm pretty sure this has been hashed before, but I'm going to re-open the wounds.

I've got my X-surf100 in my A3000 (stock '030-25)with OS 3.9 and 16M Fast RAM and 2MB Chip RAM.

Waiting for the payment to clear to download Roadshow and got to wondering about web browsers for the Amiga.

I see a lot of people talk about IBrowse, Aweb, and Voyager.  I've also heard there is a Firefox port called Timberwolf out there.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of each.

I was considering downloading Ibrowse 2.4, but finally found the site to get it and 2.4 downloads have been suspended!

At what state is Timberwolf in?  Usable?  Pile of excrement?

Curtis

[AmigaClassicRule]

Okay, I'm pretty sure this has been hashed before, but I'm going to re-open the wounds.

I've got my X-surf100 in my A3000 (stock '030-25)with OS 3.9 and 16M Fast RAM and 2MB Chip RAM.

Waiting for the payment to clear to download Roadshow and got to wondering about web browsers for the Amiga.

I see a lot of people talk about IBrowse, Aweb, and Voyager.  I've also heard there is a Firefox port called Timberwolf out there.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of each.

I was considering downloading Ibrowse 2.4, but finally found the site to get it and 2.4 downloads have been suspended!

At what state is Timberwolf in?  Usable?  Pile of excrement?

Curtis

I have never heard of Voyager but after looking at it...it seems super promising to be honest O_O! Voyager to me seems the best browser available for AGA classical Amiga. Now Timberwolf is pretty much firefox for OS 4.1. So if you want the top top top line browser that can't be beat it would be Timberwolf but then you need NG Amiga for that.

If you want to get the 100% classical feel in every regard and want a browser for that then Voyager is better than iBrowse and AWeb combined.

I am curious though...can voyager run youtube? Hehe

[matthey]

Timberwolf wouldn't run in 16MB and would crawl on an '030 even if it were available. Voyager hasn't been updated in a long time and it's buggy. AWeb will run with these specs and is available on Aminet and with the unofficial BoingBag 4 for AmigaOS 3.9. IBrowse would also work with these specs. Maybe you can use a web utility that keeps a history of old web pages and files. The browsing experience is not going to be good with either. Both are out of date although will usually work to some extent. Also, a gfx board would help the gfx and speed of a stock 3000.

[Lurch]

Ibrowse website is still alive and kicking, downloads still working fine too :-)

http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/

Probably the best browser for your setup, possible Aweb. OWB works, okay on a 060, netsurf gives you the best looking webpages but is slow even on a 060.

[QuikSanz]

I tried all of them on my A2000 030@40, Aweb looks to be a bit more responsive. A new version with patched security holes is on Aminet.

Chris

[mrmoonlight]

Hi I surf the net most days on my Amiga 1200 using Ibrowse website and I think it works fine as long as you have a little patience and roadshow really puts the icing on the cake as its trouble free ,best wishes Brian.

[Lurch]

Hi I surf the net most days on my Amiga 1200 using Ibrowse website and I think it works fine as long as you have a little patience and roadshow really puts the icing on the cake as its trouble free ,best wishes Brian.

Roadshow is amazing, installed. Copied over the mediafast driver to DEVS: and restarted done.

Also easy to script so it turns off/on when using WHDLoad.

[amoskodare]

@curtis

Timberwolf is for AmigaOS 4..

However OS4 also has iBrowse, NetSurf and many different versions of OWB, and also Odyssey.

[pVC]

If you want to get the 100% classical feel in every regard and want a browser for that then Voyager is better than iBrowse and AWeb combined.

Unfortunately Voyager wasn't never that stable. I prefer IBrowse most, it has the nicest and most versatile GUI, quite stable (at least if you don't run JS all the time ), it was the longest in development... but with today's CSS web, they're all quite useless for general browsing. Mainly good for some Amiga related sites. And trying to surf with AGA has always been real pain... but with GFX card it was great (decade ago)

There are some ports of modern browsers to classics too, like Netsurf and OWB, but they're just too slow for poor 68k CPU.

The best for NG OS'es is Odyssey... Timberwolf is too unfinished currently AFAIK.

[wawrzon]

there is also netsurf version for rtg equipped amiga on aminet,
http://aminet.net/package/comm/www/NetSurf-m68k

it is rather slow and demands newest extended ixemul.library from here since its based on sdl:
 http://amiga.sourceforge.net/?showpackage=ixemul.library

there was though another amiga chipset version in the works by novacoder afair, dunno what state it currently is though, i must have tested it once on my 4000/060 i believe.

[rvo_nl]

I love Netsurf, but it will probably be too slow on your setup. Stick with Ibrowse (2.2). If you have a Mac emulator set up, you can try iCab running under MacOS. Timberwolf and OWB are best avoided unless you invest in 060 and/or ppc.

[danwood]

if you want the top top top line browser that can't be beat it would be Timberwolf

Really?  You ever used it?  It's unusable on my OS 4 machine (A1XE) takes about 3 minutes to load up and consumes 100% of the CPU the entire time it's open, when quitting it crashes and brings down the system with it.  It's far from a browser that "can't be beat" and is really still just an early Alpha (that may never get finished).  Odyssey is much superior in every way for OS4 and MorphOS.  

For 68K Amigas, IBrowse is still the best of the bunch although very outdated and limited to 30 minutes use as they are no longer accepting registrations for it.

[amigakit]

Hi Curtis,

If you purchased the X-Surf 100 from us, check the EasyNet CD, there will be AWeb Browser on there.  Hope this helps!

[utri007]

I really hope that some one could port Netsurf to 68k Amigas, Chris has done lots of to keep that possible, with his OS4 port.

Netsurf is only realistic "semi modern" web browser for real 68k Amigas.

Current version is based to frambuffer frontend, wich is meant to be debugging and no gui systems.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56813&page=3

[yssing]

I have used netsurf a lot on 68k