Who would like to see MorphOS on SAM?

[Tripitaka]

I've been wondering lately why MorphOS hasn't been ported to the SAM boards. Is this ever going to happen? I think it would be a great thing to see and if the Morph team are confident in the OS they have made perhaps this would be a good way of getting another bit of user base. I'm interested in any comments and opinions anyone else may have on this so have your 5 cents folks and tell us what you think.

[Duce]

Too small and too costly (on the users end, hence the reason SAM's aren't more widespread) of a market, I suspect.

As a SAM owner, something I'd love to see, though.

[Lando]

There are too few SAMs sold to make it worthwhile porting.  Why divert limited developer time from the Powerbook version (of which there are millions, and readily available very cheaply in the second user market) to SAM which is expensive and has sold only a few hundreds, 90% of whom are OS4.x users who wouldn't ever use MorphOS even if it came free in their cereal never mind pay 150 Euros.

[magnetic]

You might as well give up and lock this thread because ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. The morphos team devotes developer resources towards Powerbook and G5 not, underpowered custom high priced hw. (anymore lol)

[amigadave]

I agree, it will never happen.  The only way it might happen, is if ACube un-bundles AmigaOS4.x from the SAM boards and also pays the MorphOS2.x development team a porting fee to complete a version of MorphOS2.x for any of the SAM boards.

I guess you could say that the SAM boards are already available without AmigaOS4.x through their "Industrial Purchase" program, but I don't know what the minimum number of boards is for such purchases, so it doesn't really apply to Amiga/Morph users that only buy one board at a time.

[Kesa]

I read something similar about the x1000. Trevor Dick and his people sent Morphos a motherboard to try and get them to port over but they didn't want to because the cost would be too high just so a few users could try it out and see if they like it or not. This is significant as the x1000 is significantly more expensive than the Sam is...  

[Kesa]

I agree, it will never happen.  The only way it might happen, is if ACube un-bundles AmigaOS4.x from the SAM boards and also pays the MorphOS2.x development team a porting fee to complete a version of MorphOS2.x for any of the SAM boards.

I guess you could say that the SAM boards are already available without AmigaOS4.x through their "Industrial Purchase" program, but I don't know what the minimum number of boards is for such purchases, so it doesn't really apply to Amiga/Morph users that only buy one board at a time.

hmmmmm...  i wonder how much it would cost to port Morphos over to the Sams or the x1000. Any guesses?

Maybe $200000?

[Iggy]

I agree, it will never happen.  The only way it might happen, is if ACube un-bundles AmigaOS4.x from the SAM boards and also pays the MorphOS2.x development team a porting fee to complete a version of MorphOS2.x for any of the SAM boards.

I guess you could say that the SAM boards are already available without AmigaOS4.x through their "Industrial Purchase" program, but I don't know what the minimum number of boards is for such purchases, so it doesn't really apply to Amiga/Morph users that only buy one board at a time.

Dave's got the key right here. SAMs are bundled with OS4. The MorphOS development team isn't likely to do a port to a board that guarantee the sale of a copy of Hyperion's OS.
And no one has offered to pay for the port. Not going to happen.

[Iggy]

I read something similar about the x1000. Trevor Dick and his people sent Morphos a motherboard to try and get them to port over but they didn't want to because the cost would be too high just so a few users could try it out and see if they like it or not. This is significant as the x1000 is significantly more expensive than the Sam is...  

I asked Piru about that. He says they never received a board.

[amigadave]

People buy SAM boards or systems because they want to run AmigaOS4.1 and are not interested in MorphOS2.7, or are more interested in AmigaOS4.1 than they are in MorphOS2.7.  If they were interested in running MorphOS2.7, they could buy a much cheaper system to run it on that is 2 to 5 times faster than the SAM boards.

Just makes no sense for the MorphOS Dev. Team to support the SAM boards, unless someone wants to run MorphOS2.x on a SAM so badly that they are willing to pay for the port.  I have no idea what the MorphOS Dev. Team would charge.

[Kesa]

I asked Piru about that. He says they never received a board.

I'm not surprised. Has anyone received a board yet? Have they made any yet? What about the beta testers?

[Iggy]

I'm not surprised. Has anyone received a board yet? Have they made any yet? What about the beta testers?

I think they recently claimed the first five had been made.

[drHirudo]

You might as well give up and lock this thread because ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. The morphos team devotes developer resources towards Powerbook and G5 not, underpowered custom high priced hw. (anymore lol)

In what sense the Powerbook and G5 macs are not underpowered custom high priced hw?

So if you buy Sam, you pay for AmigaOS 4.... What's so bad about it? When you buy Powerbook and G5 macs you are paying for MacOS X, or not? Can you buy a Mac without Apple's OS price attached to it?

[Kronos]

In what sense the Powerbook and G5 macs are not underpowered custom high priced hw?

They once were highpriced but I've got:
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook
2x2.3GHz PowerMac-G5
2.1GHz iMac-G5 (20")

All in good condition, all 3 combined still cheaper than 1 SAM-460 board (not to speak about a full system). And offcourse any of these will blow the SAM out of the water performance wise so the "underpowered" part doesn't really cut.

So if you buy Sam, you pay for AmigaOS 4.... What's so bad about it? When you buy Powerbook and G5 macs you are paying for MacOS X, or not? Can you buy a Mac without Apple's OS price attached to it?

Technicly none of the 3 Macs came with install media, and even if they would have it would have been Tiger (maybe even Panther on the Dual-G5) so that not really any value...

But thats not the point, those Macs have an attractive bang/buck ratio just as they are and the SAM's would be a little less unattractive if one could substract 100Euro (give or take) for OS4.

Not that it would help selling 700Euro motherboard when better performing full systems are available starting at 100Euro.

[jacadcaps]

G4/G5 Macs underpowered? The top models easily run circles around all Sam models... and I'd say "custom" isn't an appopriate words after you've sold millions of each model. This is also one of the primary reasons why we won't look at Samanthas or X1000 - these boards will never beat the availability of the 2nd hand Macs.