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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 03:57:13 PM »
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Nobody's written one.

Lets try again:

http://bigfoot.morphos-team.net/test/qemu.png
 

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2009, 04:03:03 PM »
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the same reason why there is no window xp/vista emulator....


He's asking for an AmigaOne virtual machine similar to Shapeshifter allowed 68K Mac on Amiga. PearPC or QEMU could probably be adapted, or OS4 could be ported to it directly if they wanted to.
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
http://bellard.org/qemu/

There's lots of virtual machines for Windows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_platform_virtual_machines
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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2009, 04:46:43 PM »
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by Piru on 2009/2/5 15:57:13    @spirantho  Quote:  Nobody's written one.    Lets try again:    http://bigfoot.morphos-team.net/test/qemu.png


Perhaps you should try using text to explain your point, because that image shows qemu running on some flavour of Unix/Linux, but does not make it clear that Morphos is running in qemu.

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2009, 08:42:45 AM »
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Nobody's written one.

Lets try again:

http://bigfoot.morphos-team.net/test/qemu.png


Hey Piru, am I able to get the "demo" MOS to run in QEmu?

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2009, 09:01:55 AM »
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Hey Piru, am I able to get the "demo" MOS to run in QEmu?

In short: No

(The public qemu doesn't include the pegasos2 hardware and openfirmware emulation)
 

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2009, 09:17:20 AM »
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Hey Piru, am I able to get the "demo" MOS to run in QEmu?

In short: No

(The public qemu doesn't include the pegasos2 hardware and openfirmware emulation)


I guessed as much, but it was worth a go :-) I don't have any devices capable of displaying the video output of any of my Amiga's any more... so I doubt I'll ever run MOS on my BlizzPPC :-(

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2009, 10:05:52 AM »
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I would be happy with at least the radeon emu code added to the qemu repository...

PS. Yes, I do realise that bigfoot does not really have to.
 

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2009, 12:58:35 PM »
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Remember, I'm asking about emulation on PowerPC hardware not x86 hardware... I'd think emulating a PPC system on a PPC system would be drastically faster than emulating a PPC system on an x86 system.

Depends on the host's X86/X64 and PPC processors. The other PPC emulator for X86/X64 is Dolphin GC/Wii emulator.

For example;
Zelda Twilight Princess for Wii on Dolphin Emulator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX31YpzT7Zs
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The example's PC config rivals a real SAM440 or PowerMac G3 @700Mhz hardware.

Atm, there’s a lack of interest to emulate AOS4/MOS2.x from the X86 side. Secondly, there's the native X86 AROS.

For income and development, X86 side prefers to emulate ARM based machines.
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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2009, 06:38:10 PM »
No change in accidentally allowing the modified QEMU out to say TPB?

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2009, 06:39:04 PM »
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No change in accidentally allowing the modified QEMU out to say TPB?



Not sure if that would be beneficial to Piru :-D ;-)

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2009, 08:20:32 PM »
What is Hyperion using to develop OS4? I assume Classic for OS4, A1 for OS4.1,Peg2 for its version etc.
An obvious answer, it is. :-D
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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2009, 12:43:18 AM »
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Nobody's written one.

Lets try again:

http://bigfoot.morphos-team.net/test/qemu.png


Surely it would be easier to simply add support for MorphOS in Q-OS.
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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2009, 02:59:36 AM »
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(The public qemu doesn't include the pegasos2 hardware and openfirmware emulation)

Then why showing it ? Any plan to release the so called pegasos2 hardware & openfirmware emulation ?
 

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2009, 08:25:35 AM »
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Then why showing it?

To point out that it is not impossible and that it has been done at least once already (and hey it is pretty much on topic in this thread don't you agree?). You just need skilled (and motivated) enough developer to do it.

Why shouldn't I show it?
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Any plan to release the so called pegasos2 hardware & openfirmware emulation ?

Not that I am aware of. Perhaps some day.
 

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2009, 04:00:10 PM »
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To point out that it is not impossible and that it has been done at least once already (and hey it is pretty much on topic in this thread don't you agree?). You just need skilled (and motivated) enough developer to do it.

I do agree. But is this all about: "you're wrong, I did it, so shut up" ?

What's the use ?

Would be more constructive to actually release it...
 

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Re: Why no AmigaOne/Pegasos emulators?
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 07, 2009, 08:24:26 PM »
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But is this all about : "you're wrong, I did it, so shut up" ?

I'm sorry you see it that way.

And for the record I didn't do it, Mark Olsen did.