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Title: AMIX signs of times
Post by: salax54 on June 24, 2009, 03:19:50 PM
Hi there y'all! Actually this is my first post, so i'll just say i'm glad to have joined your community. My latest project has to do with what i call the A2000 GRT UX (Greek Tower Unix):hammer: Although i have started it a couple of months ago, there's other projects taking place simultaneously, so it's in slow pace :-)  Some of you might know my work from other forums, like the A600 GRL (Greek Laptop), but this is targeted towards the Unix enviroment.. To get to the point, the setup includes an A2000 rev.6 mobo, an A2630 accelerator, an A2090 SCSI controller with an accompanying Combitec autoboot module (Zorro), a Domino graphics card, an 8up memory card, 8MB RAM (4 on the 030 board and 4 on the 8up), an IBM 4GB SCSI hd, a Quantum 540MB SCSI hd, a Toshiba SCSI CDROM, and an HP SCSI DDS tape drive. That's for the time being though.. I plan on plugging also an Oktagon 2008 card, and a PGA370 PC board (Celeron 1.3Ghz), space permitting!  This whole thing is assembled in a full-size tower, which is already crowded! Pics of the project can be seen at http://www.amigahellas.gr/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&type=&topic_id=2470&forum=9  That's the Amigahellas forum of the Greek Amigans. So, i have reached a point where i believe the most essential parts of the assembly are in place, and have fired 'er up yesterday just for a fast test. The boot menu when pressing both mouse buttons brings up a screen like this (http://www.amigahellas.gr/uploads/newbb/292_4a40fb0f01739.jpg) What i don't know is wether this is a menu produced entirely from the accelerator or from the SCSI controller. I have seen screenshots of the A2630 board menu, which has only the first 2 selections (68000 or 68030) but not the AMIX option. I haven't done any formatting on the hd's yet, and there's no OS present (either AmigaOS or AMIX) Has anyone attempted to setup AMIX on an A2000 before? I'd appreciate any experiences!
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: CLS2086 on June 24, 2009, 09:08:44 PM
Hi,
what are the rom on your A2630 accelerator ?
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: nishtek on June 24, 2009, 10:43:44 PM
Amix on A2000 works.
All you need is CBM68030, 2091 and lots of RAM that Amix can use.  Graphics card is nice add too, but speed is what is a bit desired.
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: terminator4 on June 24, 2009, 10:56:53 PM
These ROMs look like version 6.  I don't think they are 7??  7.0 might be required.
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: salax54 on June 27, 2009, 07:45:53 PM
Can't tell yet exactly what ROM version i have since i couldn't boot anything for the moment, the floppy is going berserk! That means that i can't use something like say Sysinfo.. However, the 2630 is a REV 9 model. Here's a pic of the board
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm242/salax54/2630BOARD.jpg)

and here's a pic of the ROMs...
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm242/salax54/2630ROMS.jpg)
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: salax54 on June 27, 2009, 08:17:15 PM
Allright, it appears that -04 on the ROM chips indicates they're version 4 (duh!) according to what i read at softwarehut's upgrade instructions pages. But as it seems, upgrading the ROM versions has to do with being able to use Kickstarts higher than 1.3 If that's the case, it's not what i'm after. I don't need to worry about KS or Wb versions, since i intend to use this machine solely for AMIX.
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: nishtek on June 27, 2009, 08:19:55 PM
Yep, thats version 4 allright.  If you need version 7 contact amigaATnishtekDOTcom.
Oh thats up to you, if you can get rom 1.3 & 2630 rom 4 to work thats great.   Workbench and kickrom 1.3 is so ancient though.  By the way, you can upgrade roms to version 7 on 2630 and still continue to use kickrom 1.3.
However, having said that, I have a working Amix but on rom 3.1 & rom 7.0 on both 2091 and 2630 board.
You also got a pm about that.
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: Tahoe on June 27, 2009, 08:21:07 PM
Actually the option AMIX will disappear in the later version of the ROM's.
You're hardware is not supported, at least not out of the box, but you could at least try. Get the gateway unix driver CD if you intend to use any but original C= hardware.
Your A2090 might work, but I've only had experience with installing on an A2091. The 8Up! board is unknown.

More info on getting it working can be found at http://www.amigaunix.com
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: salax54 on June 27, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Thanks for the advice folks! As i was saying, Kickstart versions ain't what i'm after, since i don't intend to use the Workbench at all on this one..
I have been visiting the amigaunix site for quite some time, and it does have some very useful info gathered, but it hasn't got the "flexible" forum-type conversation thingy i need. Talking directly with people who had a hands-on experience is very important!
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: Tension on June 27, 2009, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: salax54;513612
Thanks for the advice folks! As i was saying, Kickstart versions ain't what i'm after, since i don't intend to use the Workbench at all on this one..
I have been visiting the amigaunix site for quite some time, and it does have some very useful info gathered, but it hasn't got the "flexible" forum-type conversation thingy i need. Talking directly with people who had a hands-on experience is very important!

Yeah, Amiga.org is THE place for advice.  Lots of information gets posted quickly.
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: Failure on June 27, 2009, 09:49:18 PM
Quote from: Tension;513616
Yeah, Amiga.org is THE place for advice.  Lots of information gets posted quickly.


That's exactly why there's no forum on amigaunix.com :-)  I used to have one there long ago, but there were no posts besides me talking to myself.  There's just not enough people/interest.  And, frankly, I have no desire to compete - as it were - with existing Amiga outlets.  Most everyone here is extremely helpful, and happily nobody seems to be bothered by my one track mind.

Looks like I do need to update the discussion link to point to this forum, though, now that there's a specific place for Amix discussion.  Thanks Wayne and a.org!
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: nishtek on June 28, 2009, 08:10:46 PM
Quote from: Tahoe;513607
Actually the option AMIX will disappear in the later version of the ROM's.


Yeah, but you can still boot OS 3.1/3.9 and Amix based on boot priority.
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: walkero on July 06, 2009, 02:09:59 PM
Hello to all.
If I install 2091 7.0 rom (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=260439320935) on a 2090A SCSI card will this make it autobootable from the SCSI?
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: mongo on July 06, 2009, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: walkero;514637
Hello to all.
If I install 2091 7.0 rom (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=260439320935) on a 2090A SCSI card will this make it autobootable from the SCSI?


No. It'll just make it not work.
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: walkero on July 06, 2009, 02:32:36 PM
Thanks for your reply. Is there a way to update 2090A's roms to make it autobootable?
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: salax54 on November 14, 2013, 05:25:12 AM
Alrighty, it's been some time now.. Had AMIX run on UAE, so i forgot about this for far too long. Has anyone managed to use an RTG card with AMIX?
I've a Domino card, and a Retina Z3. Actually Domino is mentioned in the Wiki, as a possible workaround if one drags drivers from the Gateway UNIX CD.
But i'm in a dillema as to hold on to the Z3 or not. I'm almost sure it's a better card than the Domino, but haven't the luxury to keep them both...
Anyone care to share RTG-Amix experiences?
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: mechy on November 14, 2013, 05:59:05 AM
Quote from: walkero;514642
Thanks for your reply. Is there a way to update 2090A's roms to make it autobootable?


The 2090A is autobooting under 1.3-who knows if unix can autoboot on it.
 it was the first that i know of. the plain 2090 is not.
it probably wont work with a drive larger than 1gb and partitions i think needed to be no bigger than 256MB depending on rom version .
notice jumper j4 turns on/off autobooting(check links below).
the 2090 doesn't follow commodores RDB standard either.

2091's are still around, it would probably be easier/wise to upgrade to a 2091.they are the better of the crappy/slow commodore controllers lol.


2090A info:
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/a2090a
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1160
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: B00tDisk on November 14, 2013, 06:15:38 PM
Debian-m68k would likely run on your setup; have you considered that route?  You get a nice modern-ish software repository and regularly updated kernel...
Title: Re: AMIX signs of times
Post by: saraedward on December 05, 2016, 04:52:43 AM
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