FS: D-UAE Dedicated Amiga Emulation Station 2nd Gen w/ AmigaOS 4.1

[Lionheart]

Hyperion and their partners (lets be honest this is a team effort here) aren't going to to let you sell a machine emulating Amiga OS4 because...

1) The name.  You need to remove the name Amiga from it entirely unless you have a license to use the trademark.   Call it a Dedicated Emulated Station or something.

2) The strategic partnership agreement Hyperion has with ACube and A-Eon.  Hyperion's EULA most likely prevents it from being sold on non-approved hardware the same way Apple prevents Mac OSX from being sold on non-Macs.  Just look at Psystar: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/09/appeals-court-apple-can-continue-to-restrict-os-x-to-mac-hardware/

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

@c64man, thats a great unit and I just want to say keep up the good work. I would like one and will probably get it in the next couple months.

+1  People on the Internet got nothing better to do than nitpick and argue all day long, lol.  Don't let it raise your stress level too much.  

[som99]

I must say c64man, even if we had out disagreements in the past this machine is a lot better then the last one (spec wise), will be great as a dedicated Amiga emu machine and I wish you best luck and keep up the good work!

[Brian]

First I got heat for calling it the AmigaMini,  So i changed the Name to D-UAE Dedicated Amiga Emulation Station.   Now what else am I supposed to call it??,   It is what it is,  a Dedicated Amiga Emulation Station.   I can't just call it the Dedicated Emulation Station because it just runs AmigaOS.

Then you do like so many others and call it something that sounds familiar but still different enought to toss a spanner in any lawyer work or you make an acronym that works for you or you digg through old already used or but now obsolete or totaly unrelated names and ask the owner if they allow you to use it.

If I where you I'd go with Amini (a regular surname that just happens to be close to the originally intended name) and maybe use a font like ITC Garamond Italic or Garamond Book in all upper case.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Didn't AROS have to change it's name, as well?  (what it stood for, anyway)  %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!, the only people getting rich off the Amiga name anymore are lawyers.  Ridiculous.  

[ferrellsl]

Sheesh, as usual the trolls on this site take any discussion and wreck it by devolving it into circular psychobabble while trying to act as arm-chair attorneys.  You clowns will quibble to the point of absurdity.  Here's an idea for you trolls.  This site should change its name to something else because we can't have "Amiga" in the domain name/URL since it's copyrighted by God only knows who.....Change it to http://www.the-os-that-shall-not-be-named.org

[number6]

Didn't AROS have to change it's name, as well?  (what it stood for, anyway)  %&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!%&$#?@!, the only people getting rich off the Amiga name anymore are lawyers.  Ridiculous.  

That is correct.

AROS drops Amiga from its name!

Point of reference: This was in response to the filing a month earlier of Amiga Inc. vs Hyperion VOF.

#6

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Change it to http://www.the-os-that-shall-not-be-named.org

Looks like that's available!  :hammer:

[eliyahu]

Hyperion and their partners (lets be honest this is a team effort here) aren't going to to let you sell a machine emulating Amiga OS4 because...

1) The name.  You need to remove the name Amiga from it entirely unless you have a license to use the trademark.   Call it a Dedicated Emulated Station or something.

2) The strategic partnership agreement Hyperion has with ACube and A-Eon.  Hyperion's EULA most likely prevents it from being sold on non-approved hardware the same way Apple prevents Mac OSX from being sold on non-Macs.  Just look at Psystar: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/09/appeals-court-apple-can-continue-to-restrict-os-x-to-mac-hardware/

you may well have hit the nail on the head with point #2. i just reviewed the EULA that came with my AOS4.1 FE DVD, and the following section in it may be pertinent:

Permitted Uses and Restrictions.  This License allows you to install and use the Amiga OS on a single Amiga-branded or Amiga-licensed computer at a time. This License does not allow the Amiga OS to exist on more than one computer at a time.  You may make one copy of the Amiga OS in machine-readable form for backup purposes only.  The backup copy must include all copyright information contained on the original. You are required to select the appropriate "Locale" setting based on the location where you will be operating the Amiga OS. Except as expressly permitted in this License or by law, you may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, modify, rent, lease, loan, sublicense, distribute or create derivative works based upon the Amiga OS in whole or part or transmit the Amiga OS over a network or from one computer to another.  This license allows you to install or operate the Amiga OS only on a computer system that had a version of AmigaOS installed on it at the time you acquired such computer system or which was especially prepared for running Amiga OS through the use of a dedicated flashrom or similar mechanism.

:rtfm:

-- eliyahu

[som99]

Looks like that's available!  :hammer:

Not anymore, bought it Don't know why but had a ring to it haha

[itix]

Permitted Uses and Restrictions. This License allows you to install and use the Amiga OS on a single Amiga-branded or Amiga-licensed computer at a time. This License does not allow the Amiga OS to exist on more than one computer at a time. You may make one copy of the Amiga OS in machine-readable form for backup purposes only. The backup copy must include all copyright information contained on the original. You are required to select the appropriate "Locale" setting based on the location where you will be operating the Amiga OS. Except as expressly permitted in this License or by law, you may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, modify, rent, lease, loan, sublicense, distribute or create derivative works based upon the Amiga OS in whole or part or transmit the Amiga OS over a network or from one computer to another. This license allows you to install or operate the Amiga OS only on a computer system that had a version of AmigaOS installed on it at the time you acquired such computer system or which was especially prepared for running Amiga OS through the use of a dedicated flashrom or similar mechanism.

According to this license it is illegal to use WinUAE to run OS4.

[som99]

Looks like that's available!  :hammer:

It's not available ^^

[wawrzon]

According to this license it is illegal to use WinUAE to run OS4.

i think it was pretty clear to start with, that it is considered illegal and only tolerated.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

It's not available ^^

"Firefox can't find the server at www.som99.se"

DNS records not propagated yet?  Ha, good play though!  :hammer:

[som99]

"Firefox can't find the server at www.som99.se"

DNS records not propagated yet?  Ha, good play though!  :hammer:

Thanks, the domain had a nice ring to it But DNS records should soon be done at least ^^

[Terminills]

that's the funniest thing i've read in this thread so far. well played. :roflmao:

-- eliyahu

Guess the shell didn't work out so hot after all.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68849