IndivisionECS will have dual video output!

[jj]

thats prety sweet.  Good old Jens

[jj]

OMG ffs. Its too expensive. booo fooking hoo.
 
Simple Don't buy it. I doubt anyone actually cares that some of you wanted to buy loads of them.
 
I want an Audi R8, but I can't afford £76k  ($150K) , if they sold them for £100 they would sell more. I want one for £100 its not fair booo hoo.

[jj]

You want an Audi R8 ?
 
Lets both chip in and share one

[jj]

Hmmmm... Ok, but only if it has an iPhone connector :p

Sorry that was a deal breaker for me :lol:

[jj]

Do we really need this card to plug a classic machine on a TV? I do not think so.... Why not use an RGB 2 Scart cable or something similar?

 
Duh.  Because they are not for linking it to a tv

[jj]

I was using those number as an example, but your development costs should be a whole separate cost then your production costs. I agree that all costs are covered by the profit margin,and yes, you have to eat etc. I look at long term growth, not can I get my money back tomorow. You say the numbers are small on the Amiga market, but how many people are out there not buying any new product because the prices are too high? (for example, how many people would by a SAM if the price was under $200?)
Yes, I am an idiot, yes, I "have no clue" bla bla bla.
this is getting us no where, lets please put a stop to the bickering. the simple fact is that its a done deal, no mater what I say, the price is the price period. You are setting a price and I have no say in that. Until I make a competing product, and set the price point where I want it, then I will just STF up.

 
If you think that the R&D costs should not be re-couped in the unit cost in such a small market, where you will never have the turnover to re-coup it otherwise, then yes sir you are an idiot.

[jj]

Think the difference is that Jens has produced many things.  Where as the natami team have actually produced just dreams and talk

[jj]

There must have been huge fluctuations in production quality. My 1260 has been a nice, stable card. With an IDE-Fix Express, IDE is about 2 MB/s faster than my old Blizz 1260. Of course the Apollo SCSI option is crap, and 32MB per SIMM limitation is also annoying. But it's a nice card for AGA demos, and all my expansions work with it OK.
 
My Apollo 1230, on the other hand, is a complete POS. It might run for a few hours, or crash immediately... no telling when. And that's on motherboards with clean power and new caps.
 
 
 
Crossing my fingers here.

This would be timing issues.  The apollos are not buffered this is why they are faster than blizzards but a lot more unstable.
 
Whilst using apollos you really need to get relevant timing fixs done to mobos.
 
Never had trouble with a blizzard though