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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: ferrellsl on September 08, 2011, 03:31:34 AM

Title: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: ferrellsl on September 08, 2011, 03:31:34 AM
See ebay auction at:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pegasos-II-Open-Desktop-Workstation-/290607777969?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item43a992c8b1

System include OS4 pre-installed and a keyfile for MorphOS.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: DaBest on September 08, 2011, 05:43:37 AM
definitly interesting
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: ferrellsl on September 08, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
Please note I'm shipping this within the US only.  Overseas shipping and customs charges are getting to be ridiculous.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: Tripitaka on September 08, 2011, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: ferrellsl;658443
Please note I'm shipping this within the US only.  Overseas shipping and customs charges are getting to be ridiculous.


I've seen this sort of comment before and I can't help but find it absurd. If the buyer is willing to meet these extra costs, what's the problem? You're restricting your sales base unnecessarily.

However, it is your sale so sell as you see fit. The only thing that ever stops me selling overseas is if a legal issue forbids it.....
.....and I've let that slip before too, if it's a grey enough area to bend.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: spihunter on September 08, 2011, 02:12:43 PM
It's because US customs sucks. I've had them unpack and repack several things. Sometimes they'll set packages aside and leave them there for a month or longer.

Quote from: Tripitaka;658458
I've seen this sort of comment before and I can't help but find it absurd. If the buyer is willing to meet these extra costs, what's the problem? You're restricting your sales base unnecessarily.

However, it is your sale so sell as you see fit. The only thing that ever stops me selling overseas is if a legal issue forbids it.....
.....and I've let that slip before too, if it's a grey enough area to bend.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: espskog on September 08, 2011, 02:18:57 PM
Really ? If I send something to US from Norway, I just put a sticker on it for the value and the contents and off it goes...nobody re-packs it or checks anything. That happens when it arrives and not when it is sent, I guess. And to be honest, I just got a 5,3KG box sent from Chicago to Oslo and it did not cost more than  $63, which is like one third of what it would have cost me to send it from Oslo->CHicago ...so shipping from US is not really expensive at all :-)
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: ferrellsl on September 09, 2011, 03:17:28 AM
If it doesn't sell at this auction, I'll start a new auction and open it up for overseas bidders.  But as spihunter mentioned, US Customs can be a b@tch and the delivery times can get crazy.  Plus the additional shipping costs deter some bidders.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: amiman99 on September 09, 2011, 04:00:14 AM
Quote from: ferrellsl;658563
If it doesn't sell at this auction, I'll start a new auction and open it up for overseas bidders.  But as spihunter mentioned, US Customs can be a b@tch and the delivery times can get crazy.  Plus the additional shipping costs deter some bidders.
I got bunch of stuff from UK and China, no problems at ALL. Never got hit with customs fee and it arrived quickly. I do sometimes wonder if they will send me a bill ...
Maybe the problem is with other countries customs, not USA.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: amigadave on September 09, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Can you provide actual photos of your Pegasos2 ODW computer, instead of the stock photo?

It has registration keys for both MorphOS & AmigaOS4, but is the OS4 current, or is there an additional fee required to get the most current version of OS4 installed on the hard drive?

Why are you selling it?  Is there any problem with it?  Did you buy it new, or from another user?
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: nicholas on September 09, 2011, 09:55:59 AM
There's a Pegasos II for sale in the UK for £400.  I wouldn't mind buying it so I can use OS4 but I'm skint at the moment. :(

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pegasos-II-1GHz-G4-Amiga-/320754439772?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item4aae74565c
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: ferrellsl on September 09, 2011, 02:37:00 PM
Machine looks just like the stock photo.  Bought it new, direct from Genesi in 2008.  OS4 has not had any update patches applied, IIRC.  Selling it because it's useless to me and has been sitting in a box for the past 2 years collecting dust.  Fired it up and tested it myself just 3 days ago and it's still running perfectly.  I can't find the OS4 installation CD, lost it in my move to Texas, but OS4 is installed and runs perfectly and the OS4 manuals are included.  Any updates applied to OS4 will be the responsibility of the buyer.  Not sure if updates are free or not.  Haven't been worried about the updates since I don't use the system at all.  At one point, it was set up for dual-booting MorphOS and OS4, but now it just has OS4 installed on it but I will email the MOS key-file to the buyer.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: cha05e90 on September 09, 2011, 05:50:09 PM
Quote from: amigadave;658613
...but is the OS4 current, or is there an additional fee required to get the most current version of OS4 installed on the hard drive?


For the Pegasos II only AmigaOS 4.1 was published, which actually is the newest. I suppose you'll get the original Pegasos-II-OS4.1-CD with registration key with this Pegasos II - so can go and download all updates (1-3) from the Hyperion website for free.

EDIT: I forgot to menton that the Pegasos II is a really nice and (up to now) very reliable machine - and the perfect system to use with both MorphOS and AmigaOS (and sometimes Xubuntu - I have a triple boot system).
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: ferrellsl on September 09, 2011, 11:00:59 PM
It will also run OSX using MOL (Mac On Linux) and my intention was to install OSX and play with it but I never got around to it.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: amigadave on September 09, 2011, 11:28:12 PM
Losing the AmigaOS4 CD is a shame, can you get a replacement from Hyperion with some kind of proof of purchase?

I already have Mac hardware to run MorphOS and MacOSX and LinuxPPC.  The only reason I would be slightly interested in this computer is because it can run all of the above plus AmigaOS4.  Using a larger hard drive with 4 partitions for a Quad Boot setup would be convenient, but I guess I will stick with what I have and just use a keyboard, monitor, mouse switch, to save desk space.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: ferrellsl on September 10, 2011, 12:37:55 AM
I know the CD is still somewhere in my household goods and when it turns up I'll mail it to the buyer.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: Insidious611 on September 10, 2011, 04:30:52 AM
Can I ask an impertinent question?
Why did you spend so much money on it (Pegasos systems being as mind numbingly expensive as they are) if you never used it for anything?
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: ferrellsl on September 10, 2011, 09:41:41 AM
@Insidious611

You've got to be kidding right?  Pegasos systems mind numbingly expensive?  Not hardly.  I originally paid $700 for the system back in 2008 and it was brand new and complete and included my MOS keyfile.  Just needed to add a mouse, monitor and keyboard.  Mind numbingly expensive is an X1000 bare motherboard for $3000USD.  You obviously haven't looked into the pricing of ANY of the NG Amiga systems.  A complete SAM system from Acube will set you back at least $1000 USD.  So a starting bid of $500 for a PegII is actually quite a good deal, especially when I'm throwing OS4.1 and MOS in for free.  Buying both of those separately will set you back at least $350 USD.

I was hoping to get back in to the Amiga scene after a 15 year absence by getting a PegII and using MOS and OS4.  I also wanted to play around with OSX.  But as most current Amigans know, there just isn't any software out there for MOS or OS4 that's up to date or isn't crawling with bugs.  And at the time I bought it, no office suite, no functional web browser, not much of anything useful as far as applications go.....and I'm sorry, the only Amiga browsers out there when I bought the PegII were laughably out of date.  The one bright spot was AmigaCygnix.....and here it is 3 years later and the Amiga and MOS are still awaiting a decent office suite.  Sure, great strides have been made in the area of usable browsers, but as an IT professional, I can't wait 3 more years for functional software and I don't have the time to develop my own software for OS4 or MOS.  So I began using the PegII less and less until I decided to put it into storage.  From now on, I'll invest my money in "new" classic systems like the Natami or a Replay board and just remember the Amigas's glory days by sticking to those systems and doing my real work on my PC.  Although AROS has sparked my interest quite a bit lately.  Hope my answer wasn't as impertinent as your question.
Title: Re: FA: Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation
Post by: Insidious611 on September 10, 2011, 10:17:09 AM
Nonono, you get me wrong. I'm not saying your auction isn't a good deal, thats an amazing deal. I just find NG Amiga hardware a little too expensive as compared to its capabilities in general, but thats my thing. Anyway, I just wanted to know why you sunk $700 (Which, for me, is quite a lot of money) into a system and then did not use it. You answered that fairly well.

Also I definitely agreed with you regarding "New Classic" systems like the Natami/Replay with Minimig AGA/etc being a better idea.