Harald Frank / AROS

I dont think me or Paul are religious zealots... since we're the only two who responded with even mildly  negative comments... I think thats pretty funny to start labeling us things right away like that.

[heimert]

VMC Harald Frank, Developer and Founder of... AROS ?!  :lol:

[Hammer]

heimert wrote:
VMC Harald Frank, Developer and Founder of... AROS ?!  :lol:

:lol:

[Paul_Gadd]

Religious zealots? There was nothing religious or zealous mentioned, apart from the fact that negative comment is about a man what took one of the most popular and best selling Amiga product in years and shat all over the real author and killed a product.

VMC Harald Frank, Destroyer and Killer of... Amithlon ?!

Religious zealots  :roflmao:

[MarkTime]

I'm a religious zealot.  I believe something very strongly.  I would be the last person to know WHAT it is....but something seems really important.

:-)

[walter]

Anyone who imagines that opposition to Harald Frank comes from "religious zealots"
should spend a few hours reading Harald's posts on the amithlon or amithlonopen Yahoo
lists.  I dare ya.  I double dare ya.

If you haven't had enough by then, go back and check out Bernie's posts in those
same threads, and see which one seems more rational, and which one tries to
support his case with coherent, relevant detail.

Sometimes, it really is all one way---no grey area, no moral equivocation.  But
don't trust my word, go read the lists!

Walter

[bhoggett]

@mdma

Without giving to much away from a private subscription list (I might get thrown off!),  I think this could be good for AROS as he wrote the powerpci.library stuff for Amithlon, as long as he sticks to the licence model (Which I have no doubt he will), then this can only be a good thing, especially now that AROS is being proted to Pegasos and we have AHI support from Martin.

That raises an interesting scenario:

Mr Frank has always claimed that Bernd Meyer cannot use any code or technology developed for Amithlon in any other project because he claims part ownership of all involved IP.

Converesely, one would have to assume that this also means that Mr. Frank cannot use any of the technology he's developed for Amithlon in any other project without Bernd Meyer's express premission.

(The above assumes Mr Frank is correct, so this would apply from his point of view)

If he does go ahead and contribute Amithlon technology to the AROS project, doesn't that void any claims he has over Bernd Meyer's work?

hmmm...

[Desmon]

@bhoggett

If he does go ahead and contribute Amithlon technology to the AROS project, doesn't that void any claims he has over Bernd Meyer's work?

If only life were that easy....

[wonea]

Well I think this is very good news.  I can't see a problem with this, as the work is to be submitted under the AROS licence.  Don't worry have trust in the AROS team.  They rule.

Well I think this is very good news

Me too. That's why  I posted the item in the first place.

[walter]

I obviously missed something.  Has Harald volunteered
to supply a a specific component to AROS (such as a
PCI library or device)?  Or are you speculating based
on his contribution to Amithlon?

In any case, I wish you, and AROS, luck in your
dealings with him.  I hope the project continues smoothly
and peacefully (note that the Amithlon disputes were
not all over intellectual property ownership, but also
about bug-fixing responsibility, and, by extension,
how components should work together).

Has Harald volunteered
to supply a a specific component to AROS (such as a
PCI library or device)?

You are on the right track sort of.  I think this is excellent news myself.

[cecilia]

it's only good news if Frank doesn't lose his mind and blow up. (I HAVE read the yahoo amithlon lists. and it's horrifying!!!)

i personally would watch him like a hawk. just in case  :-o

[bhoggett]

@cecilia

i personally would watch him like a hawk. just in case

I'd be inclined to second that. I really don't believe he would get involved with AROS for one minute unless he sees a profit angle for himself in doing so, and I can state from personal experience and direct conversations with the man that his view on open source licensing is loose at best.  You don't want to go through the development and testing process only to find that come the time of release HF decides he wants to impose restrictions incompatible with the AROS Public License.

[wonea]

I'm sure the AROS team doesn't want to issue a dual licence.   They seem fussy about licencing anyway.  Wanting everything under APL or GPL.  GO AROS!!!

[Paul_Gadd]

@walter

A nice interesting read but nothing beats this.