IE7

[Martin_Lee]

1. wtf are you doing running windoze? lol
2. who gives a crap about IE?
3. quite a few browsers out there are much better (and finished)
4. umm cant think of a 4th except. wtf?!

[Vincent]

Looks good, but I'm not going to bother trying it until it's an official update.  I don't have an offline dedicated beta machine (I've tried making one from spare parts but never got very far).

I like the Anti phishing filter (that made it's debut as a plugin for MSN's Search Toolbar along with the tabbed browsing).  Everything else is something that should've been implemented a long long time ago.
The overall look is better, but it still seems a bit disorganized to me.


Still sticking with Opera 9.0 here (a beta, but it's yet to cause any kind of problem here).

[seer]

For those who want to try it without installing IE7Beta can run "stand alone"

1. Download and install WinRAR
2. Right-click on "IE7B2P-WindowsXP-x86-enu.exe" and choose "Extract to "IE7B2P-WindowsXP-x86-enu""
3. Find and delete "shdocvw.dll"
4. Make a new text file (iexplore.exe.local) and call it "iexplore.exe.local" (make it inside the folder that iexplore.exe is in)
5. Run iexplore.exe and it should work!

Not tried it with the latest build tho as so far it's way better then IE6. (Ok, that's not so hard to do...)

[blobrana]

Hum,
nice tip...

@Vincent, yeah don`t bother, although its fast and stable, the browsers  `back button` has been disabled!
Plus, i have heard reports that the installer is real flaky, it asks you to uninstall your ,Beta1, IE first, and then promptly freezes...
And the `XP restore` function has failed so that some ppl are `forced` to use an alternative browser...LOL...

i`m back to beta 1...(er, not that i use it)

[seer]

Hi Blobsie,

The Back button works for me, but it's a bit different then that of IE6.

As for uninstalling IE7, in software or add/remove programs (depends on the language version) in the "control panel" check "show updates". Previous builds then showed up under "windows XP Software updates" but the build released this month should be visible without the show updates. I noticed that the MS download pages instructs to remove the previous builds before installing the new one (by using the add/remove programs)

[seer]

Still sticking with Opera 9.0 here

Did you get the free key they offered a while back ? Not sure what the reason was but I should still have it..

Never liked Opera on the PC (Got Firefox cause all the extensions available) but love it on my Nokia 7710.

Hows Opera 9 compared to FireFox1.5 ?

[Vincent]

Dunno about comparing Opera to Firefox, but Opera 9 is a bit faster and lighter on the memory compared to 8.5x on my system.  Even though it is still in beta.

Although that probably doesn't help you in the slightest ;-)

[mikeymike]

Waccoon wrote:

Exactly! Why would anyone want to use the bug-infested security hazard known as IE when Firefox works so well?!

Not to trumpet IE, but FireFox still has tons of problems.  It trashes its profiles regularly, must be WIPED OUT if you want to re-install it, or else damaged profiles will be retained, the download manager sucks, it crashes, extensions are always having version conflicts, bad extentions blow up the whole browser, it still suffers from an annoying "Sticky Alt Key" bug that has been in the browser since 0.8, the JavaScript debugger actually ignores certain critical errors... etc., etc., etc..

I have been using Firefox for over three years and have never had it trash a profile.  I also must have rolled it out to at least 30 customers, none have reported Firefox stability issues.  I don't remember the last time Firefox crashed on me, no Firefox crashes in my event log.  I got used to the download manager, it works ok.  I don't use any extensions.  "Sticky alt key"?  I don't know about the JS console, I don't do web development really, none that involves JS anyway.

Firefox does have its problems, I have seen it crash and do sucky things, but I think maybe you should consider that some of these issues may be localised to your setup, and aren't necessarily global issues.

I've seen Internet Explorer do lots of strange things too, including virtually all of the things you describe above, but I don't discount the fact that millions of people use it every day and are completely satisfied with it.  Same goes for Opera, and every other web browser ('millions' aside).

[hppacito]

Regarding IE, I am so glad I don't run windowze in a daily basis, I don't care what they do. It is even banned at my uni (but the default is netscape, yuck, gone are the times of ns 3 and 4).

I have FF 1.5 at the uni, and sometimes crashes especially after one week of continuous use, as I don't quit.
the default in SuSe 9.3 is 1.0.6 or 7 and that crashes quite often, in a couple of hs.

But, I use the same profile for both.

The real problem is that java doesn't work anymore since i put 1.5, why ?, didn't found out yet (neither with 1.4.2 nor 1.5.0_6)...

And I'm using the same profile I had when I first installed it 1 1/2 years ago. No trashes, nothing.

The only extension I have is adblock, cannot live without it !

[kd7ota]

Am I the only one that enjoys IE?  :-D

Never once has it failed me.  :-)

[Martin_Lee]

kd7ota wrote:
Am I the only one that enjoys IE?  :-D

Never once has it failed me.  :-)

its ok we'll get you some help

[kd7ota]

 :-P

I think I will be ok for now.  If something happens I will be sure to report it.  :-D

[tomekm]

pm me where did you get the AmigaOS skin for xP??

as to IE (any version): it just sucks. I have 4 PCs at home and whenever someone just starts IE it finishes with some virus on disk (sic!). I personally use Firefox on Win32 and Safari on Mac OS X, and love it!

[blobrana]

Hum,
i got the
Skins  from here (but i can`t seem  to see mine)...

[Oliver]

kd7ota wrote:
Am I the only one that enjoys IE?  :-D

Never once has it failed me.  :-)

You're running IE under Windows, right? Have you NEVER been affected by malware from an IE session?

I almost never use IE, and it still fails for me too often.  I only use it when I really need to use a website with active x or some other thing.  I'll always try with another browser first, and seriously consider whether I really need to use the page.

My wife is Chinese, and she uses IE all the time to access Chinese webmail, and other pages, all loaded with code that only 'works' on IE.  Her PC is always infested with so much rubbish, I can't even be bothered fixing it any more.  Those sights have lots of malware that can't be dealt with by any program I've used.  I avoid IE like the plague.

[tomekm]

blobrana wrote:
Hum,
i got the
Skins  from here (but i can`t seem  to see mine)...

thx :-)  :-) !!! i am leeching them right now   :-)